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Old 01-13-2020, 03:21 AM   #21
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you will always have an issue with pulling up hill with a f150, just go slow and you'll do fine.


get the biggest gas engine that you can for pulling too.
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Old 01-13-2020, 06:05 AM   #22
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file:///C:/Users/Kirk-Lola/Documents/TrailerLifeTowGuide2020.pdf
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Old 01-13-2020, 07:15 AM   #23
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file:///C:/Users/Kirk-Lola/Documents/TrailerLifeTowGuide2020.pdf

This appears to be a link to a file on your computer which can't be opened. Open the link from your computer then copy that Trailer Life link to your post in the forum.
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Old 01-13-2020, 07:45 AM   #24
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I think he meant,
TrailerLifeTowGuide2020.pdf
Hilight it and Google search 🙂
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:14 AM   #25
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I think he meant,
TrailerLifeTowGuide2020.pdf
Hilight it and Google search ��

Yeah, I knew how to get to it but thought he might have intended a link vs a personal computer file.

Here's the link:

https://webcontent.goodsam.com/trail...wGuide2020.pdf
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:39 AM   #26
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You can't go wrong with an F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost, Max Tow, 3.55 axle. Awesome torque, super smooth 10-speed and plenty of room to grow if you wish to get a bigger trailer down the road.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:10 PM   #27
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You can't go wrong with an F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost, Max Tow, 3.55 axle. Awesome torque, super smooth 10-speed and plenty of room to grow if you wish to get a bigger trailer down the road.
IF that F150 is properly equipped (adequate payload) then you're going to be OK (to a point). If that F150 is "a KR or Ultimate model off the dealer's lot" you're looking at a payload in the 1400-1600 pound range and will encounter SIGNIFICANT issues trying to stay under GVW with any trailer in the 10K range. That's a "bigger trailer" if you're upgrading from a 17' ultralite, but not a "bigger trailer" if you're already in the 7500-9000 pound GVW range with your current trailer.

Essentially, any trailer greater than "around 10K GVW" is going to overwhelm almost EVERY F150. There is a "HD F150 with HD payload and HD towing options, but they are "rarer than hen's teeth" at any dealership. I've never seen one for sale on a lot, they ALL are special order only. Finding a used one for sale is even harder to locate, so unless you're willing to special order a tow vehicle, that kind of "properly equipped truck" is virtually non-existent...
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:59 PM   #28
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Who needs an f 150?
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Old 01-14-2020, 03:33 PM   #29
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Thanks for all the input! As I expected, most folks lean towards the “go big or go home” method. But, as I said, we don’t plan to upgrade in the future. We’re retired, in our sixties and live in Alaska where the camping season is short.

So, after doing the following comparison and taking your input into consideration, I’m back to leaning towards a Ram 1500.

Engine. Payload. GCWR. Max.TWR
1500. 5.7L Hemi. 1970 . 17000. 11470
2500. 5.7L Hemi. 2350. 18300. 11,180

The additional GVWR of 2000lbs in the 2500 along with the cost of the vehicle doesn’t seem worth it to me!

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Can you share where you got those numbers? I originally posted that they seemed out of whack but didn't pursue it. I thought I would look into it a bit this evening and although the 1500 looks "sort of" right, the best payload I could pull was about 1840 with a tradesman no frills truck. A new Ram 2500 doesn't even offer the 5.7 and their payloads are all in the 3k range.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:12 PM   #30
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Specs show the GVWR on your trailer at just under 6,000 lbs. Unless that is incorrect, or unless you are hauling a load of concrete blocks along with your trailer, you should be fine. Assuming that your tongue load is a maximum of 15% that is 900 lbs. With a payload rating of just a hair over 2,000 lbs on a Crew Cab 4x4 145" WB, that gives you 1,100 lbs to cover you and the Mrs along with whatever else is in the truck or bed. With a GCWR of 16,200, a conventional trailer rating of 10,700 lbs. (20" tires will be higher, Limited and Raptor numbers are less) you have plenty of room to spare in the top rated truck and powertrain combo offered in a half-ton (sorry to the GM, RAM, Toyota and Nissan folks).
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Old 02-10-2020, 03:51 PM   #31
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I have a brand new silverado 1500 with max tow package. payload is 2250#

I tow a 5th wheel 29RBS xlite. fully loaded its about 8300#, and in pin weight of #1463

Tows no problem, 13 mpg too on the 5.3 gas engine. 8,000 miles on the road in 19.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:47 PM   #32
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2016 F150. Payload just under 1800, tow capacity 9100. 5.0 V8, 1100 lb max hitch weight. 35 gallon fuel tank.
2018 Passport 22RB, gross weight 6500, typical weight 6000.
So 2/3 weight of stated tow capacity of truck. Pulls like dream with 800 lb tw.
Plus when not pulling trailer on highway I get 22 mpg, in town 16-17 mpg.
Have owned 3/4t dodge and ford diesels, pulled gooseneck, 5wh and bumper pull tt.
Buy what you need, this setup is all I need as this trailer is all we want now. No issues braking or pulling in Washington, Idaho and Montana.
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Old 02-10-2020, 06:58 PM   #33
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Thanks for all the input! As I expected, most folks lean towards the “go big or go home” method. But, as I said, we don’t plan to upgrade in the future. We’re retired, in our sixties and live in Alaska where the camping season is short.

So, after doing the following comparison and taking your input into consideration, I’m back to leaning towards a Ram 1500.

Engine. Payload. GCWR. Max.TWR
1500. 5.7L Hemi. 1970 . 17000. 11470
2500. 5.7L Hemi. 2350. 18300. 11,180

The additional GVWR of 2000lbs in the 2500 along with the cost of the vehicle doesn’t seem worth it to me!

Thanks again!
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The RAMS now have COIL Springs on their 1500 trucks..........
PASS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:36 AM   #34
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I have a 2018 Keystone Cougar 22RBS and tow it with a 2015 F150 w/3.5 L V-6. I have towed it from Toronto to Los Angeles, Portland, OR and down east to the Canadian Maritimes with zero issues.
Im researching TV for that 22RBS. Do you continue to stand by this post?
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Hi all,


I'm in comparison shopping mode for purchasing a new tow vehicle (truck) for our 2016 Keystone Passport (195RBWE).


We've been using our 2003 Ford F-150 Supercrew (4x4) since we purchased the trailer and it has performed "ok", except for steep and/or lengthy hills. Second trip we had a blown sparkplug and ever since have worried about another one.


We don't plan to upgrade this camper to anything bigger in the future, but do want something that will tow without any worries. I had been looking at the 250/2500s series from Ford/Chevy(GMC)/RAM, but have recently discussed the 150/1500s with my very knowledgeable son-in-law who tows his race truck with a RAM 3500 DW Diesel.



Apparently the new 150/1500s towing capabilities are far better than they were in 2003. Does anyone have a compelling reason why I should not consider a 150/1500 model? I definitely don't want a Diesel due to their higher maintenance costs. And, it appears the 250/2500s towing capacity is not much higher than the 150/1500s.


Thanks in advance for your input.
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The price difference is nothing between a 150 or 250 gasser. Go with the 250 or 2500 you will not be sorry. If the 150 has been doing you okay then the 250 or 2500 will do you even better and will not have the problem going up hill. Besides up hill isn’t the problem. Down hill is
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