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08-01-2019, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by travelin texans
Couldn't agree more!
I've had 2 Duramax duallies ('05 & '13) towing 12-16.5k 5th wheels & can't imagine doing so with a gasser.
Just curious! The biggest thing most use as an excuse to not buy a diesel is maintenance cost, have you noticed that it has been enormously higher than your previous gassers? I did not! But as I said they were both Duramax. My son bought a '06 Ford Excursion with 6.0 PS & the maintenance costs on that POS were sky high & still wouldn't run half the time.
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Pop in on the diesel/gas issue.
I had an 01 Duramax and moved to a 2015 GM half ton. My bigger issue with the diesel was not running it hard enough for most of the year. My commute is 3km (~2mi) and I'd end up buying and driving a POS for the winter months to save the wear and tear on the diesel running cold all the time. Second time my injectors started to give me grief, I gave up on the Duramax.
Outside of the injectors (an issue on early Duramax's), the maint costs were not really much more.
Now I want a bigger trailer and am looking at the 3/4 ton gas.
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09-24-2019, 07:12 AM
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#62
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Originally Posted by Blackrock
Right now everyone is Gaga over the Ford F150 as the ideal tow vehicle. Check out this story and you can see where having the power to tow the load does not mean that the truck has the drivetrain capable of doing the job.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...cid=spartandhp
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I would think that having a truck in 4x4, no traction control and reving the engine to 2500 rpm before releasing the brake with 8000 lbs of dead weight all on a surface designed to reduce wheel spin will do significant damage to any truck regardless of size.
I don’t see this as a valid test of durability or ability.
Just stay within the ratings of the truck and your fine. No unrealistic testing needed.
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09-24-2019, 08:41 AM
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I also thought at first my 3/4 ton would be good enough for a 5'ver toyhauler. I made 1 trip and stopped at the scales before I traded it off. Sure it sucked, as I added another 2 years on the truck loan, but the stability, safety and piece of mind when hauling the grandkids around is worth it.
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17 Fuzion 325 / 15 Chevy 3500 HC DRW
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09-24-2019, 11:37 AM
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The world is full of gullible people that seek approval for their actions, good or bad. In my observations most of these folks simply cannot deal with the reality of "being had" by a sale. There's perception and there's reality. A good example is how an airline cabin is portrayed on TV with a dance hall sized isles, plenty of legroom, and overhead storage that can fit a magicians trunk. Reality, well anything but. Truck commercials are just as misleading with ridiculous tow ratings, cameras that can "see thru" trailers, etc. etc. Good advertising has always created good results for retailers (can you say Superbowl commercials?) and that advertising has been everything from outlandish claims to flat out lying. So do your children a favor and teach them the difference, it will save them some heartaches and headaches later in life. God knows the schools don't teach common sense it's up to the parents. JMHO
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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09-24-2019, 01:37 PM
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And where do they get those people that make the inside of a Fiat look like they're riding in 70s Lincoln?
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09-24-2019, 03:27 PM
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I've often thought that the ad agencies must have a lot of VERY petite people for that!
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
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09-24-2019, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
I've often thought that the ad agencies must have a lot of VERY petite people for that!
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If you look real close, you'll see that they are Ken's and Barbies.
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Kansas City, MO
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09-24-2019, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackrock
Right now everyone is Gaga over the Ford F150 as the ideal tow vehicle. Check out this story and you can see where having the power to tow the load does not mean that the truck has the drivetrain capable of doing the job.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...cid=spartandhp
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I saw an ad for the F-150 and having 13,000 pounds plus of towing capacity. Hmm. That may explain a photo I saw on another forum of an F-150 towing a Grand Design Solitude fiver. Now, my fifth wheel has a GW of 15,000 pounds, pin weight of 2350 lbs and is 35 feet in length. It is not a low or mid profile RV. I tow it with a Ram 3500 with the HO Cummins and Aisin transmission and factory 5th wheel prep. I still have some cushion weight wise. I can't picture the F-150 with anything close to 13,000 pounds going up over the passes in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and attempting to keep the speeds down on the down slope.
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09-24-2019, 08:44 PM
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My 3500 is in fact close to the capacity of the 2500. But, there are differences in GCWR and cargo. My 3500 has on the average close to 2000 lbs more capacity. However, it is in fact power train that makes the difference-higher torque engine with a transmission matched to the engine.
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09-24-2019, 08:50 PM
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"One has to move into the DRW variety to substantively move beyond the 10K.". No, that is incorrect. I have a SRW 3500. Here are my specs: 6.7L CUMMINS DIESEL (HO)
A6 AS69RC
3.42
12,300 Note the increase over 10,000
4,130 Payload
25,300 GCWR
16,660 Max Towing.
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09-25-2019, 04:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pdaniel
I saw an ad for the F-150 and having 13,000 pounds plus of towing capacity. Hmm. That may explain a photo I saw on another forum of an F-150 towing a Grand Design Solitude fiver. Now, my fifth wheel has a GW of 15,000 pounds, pin weight of 2350 lbs and is 35 feet in length. It is not a low or mid profile RV. I tow it with a Ram 3500 with the HO Cummins and Aisin transmission and factory 5th wheel prep. I still have some cushion weight wise. I can't picture the F-150 with anything close to 13,000 pounds going up over the passes in the Rocky Mountains in Colorado and attempting to keep the speeds down on the down slope.
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I think a good venture to get into would be to open a transmission shop at the top of the pass and a brake shop at the bottom of each side.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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09-25-2019, 07:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
I think a good venture to get into would be to open a transmission shop at the top of the pass and a brake shop at the bottom of each side.
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^^^^If anyone could figure out how, 2 good locations would be at the top of Wolf Creek Pass and at the bottom toward Pagosa Springs at the pull out by Silver Falls. Seems there's always a vehicle, truck, RV or etc. pulled over with something "smoking".
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09-25-2019, 08:16 AM
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With signs starting about 1/2 mile with the phone number of the shop.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
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