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06-06-2022, 04:46 AM
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Lite Weight Trailers vs Travel Trailers
Okay, call me a little OCD (only because you don't know me well enough to roll your eyes and say 'totally OCD'), but there are two sections on the forum for Lite Weight Trailers and Travel Trailers.
I have a Keystone 174rk, 21ft. I just think of it as a Travel Trailer, but is it a Lite Weight Trailer?
Some may think, "Hey weird dude, who cares?"
Well, just wondering which section of this forum this "weird dude" fits into.
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Rusty - Rigby, Idaho
- 2022 KEYSTONE HIDEOUT 174RK
- 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 Quad-Cab Z71
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06-06-2022, 04:52 AM
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Site Team
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If your trailer is designated “lite” or “ lite weight” by Keystone than that section is dedicated to your type of RV.
In the grand scheme of things you fit in anywhere in this forum.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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06-06-2022, 05:26 AM
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^^^ What he said....
If you look back over the years, you'll find some Keystone fifth wheels that were advertised as "built with helium technology". They're still fifth wheels, not something else, so they still fit the forum section for fifth wheels...
There's some trailers without "lite" or "ultra-lite" in their name. Then there's trailers that don't have those "identifiers" in their model or brand name. They're still fifth wheels or travel trailers, just like their "other brothers"... So they still fit the forum sections for travel trailers or the "new and improved but maybe outdated section for "light weight trailers"....
There was a time when "lite" or "ultra-lite" trailers were built with "sandwich floors", but then, with the water damage to that type flooring, many of the "lightweight brands" went back to solid floor sections, and negated that "division in brands"... Then along came NOCO frames, and 14" tires on trailers, but RVIA changed the tire ratings and many of those 14" tire trailers had equipment updates to 15" tires to meet the new standard. So, are they still "solid floor ultra-lites" or are they something else.....
Then there's the toyhauler section... When you think about it, all toyhaulers are either fifth wheels or travel trailers, so they "fit multiple places" just like the lite or ultra-lite models....
Just wait until you get to the "with In-Command or without In-Command" or other "exclusive features" that are offered....
You and your trailer "fit most anywhere you post a comment"... Just try not to post refrigerator questions in the tires or tow vehicle sections... And, if you do, probably someone on the site team will move it and send you a PM that it's not lost, but put in the appropriate section... (note I didn't say it was "put in a specific place" LOL
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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06-06-2022, 05:30 AM
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Maybe we should add an OCD section? Just kidding, welcome to either or both.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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06-06-2022, 07:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
Maybe we should add an OCD section? Just kidding, welcome to either or both.
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Wait, there’s an OCD section?!? I may tear up!
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Rusty - Rigby, Idaho
- 2022 KEYSTONE HIDEOUT 174RK
- 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 Quad-Cab Z71
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06-06-2022, 07:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckster57
If your trailer is designated “lite” or “ lite weight” by Keystone than that section is dedicated to your type of RV.
In the grand scheme of things you fit in anywhere in this forum.
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Thanks. I’m definitely more husky than Lite, same as my trailer.
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06-06-2022, 07:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
^^^ What he said....
If you look back over the years, you'll find some Keystone fifth wheels that were advertised as "built with helium technology". They're still fifth wheels, not something else, so they still fit the forum section for fifth wheels...
There's some trailers without "lite" or "ultra-lite" in their name. Then there's trailers that don't have those "identifiers" in their model or brand name. They're still fifth wheels or travel trailers, just like their "other brothers"... So they still fit the forum sections for travel trailers or the "new and improved but maybe outdated section for "light weight trailers"....
There was a time when "lite" or "ultra-lite" trailers were built with "sandwich floors", but then, with the water damage to that type flooring, many of the "lightweight brands" went back to solid floor sections, and negated that "division in brands"... Then along came NOCO frames, and 14" tires on trailers, but RVIA changed the tire ratings and many of those 14" tire trailers had equipment updates to 15" tires to meet the new standard. So, are they still "solid floor ultra-lites" or are they something else.....
Then there's the toyhauler section... When you think about it, all toyhaulers are either fifth wheels or travel trailers, so they "fit multiple places" just like the lite or ultra-lite models....
Just wait until you get to the "with In-Command or without In-Command" or other "exclusive features" that are offered....
You and your trailer "fit most anywhere you post a comment"... Just try not to post refrigerator questions in the tires or tow vehicle sections... And, if you do, probably someone on the site team will move it and send you a PM that it's not lost, but put in the appropriate section... (note I didn't say it was "put in a specific place" LOL
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May copy/paste your response into my Trailer Notes section of Apple Notes. Thanks.
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06-06-2022, 10:18 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
Maybe we should add an OCD section? Just kidding, welcome to either or both.
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I need a CDO section. It's the same as the OCD section except the letters are in the correct order...
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06-06-2022, 02:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wrvond
I need a CDO section. It's the same as the OCD section except the letters are in the correct order...
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You officially win the Internet today with that comment.
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06-07-2022, 05:50 AM
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All Lite Weight trailers are Travel Trailers, but not all Travel Trailers are Lite Weight.
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06-07-2022, 06:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Balvar24
All Lite Weight trailers are Travel Trailers, but not all Travel Trailers are Lite Weight.
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Not so much:
https://www.kz-rv.com/products/duran...-fifth-wheels/
https://camperadvise.com/lightweight-5th-wheel-campers/
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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06-07-2022, 06:52 AM
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KZ touts 12000 lb 5th wheels as half ton towable. WOW.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
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06-07-2022, 06:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
KZ touts 12000 lb 5th wheels as half ton towable. WOW.
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That's because the F150 has a maximum tow rating of 12,300 pounds.... No regard to anything except "what one manufacturer says about one component of the specifications....
Sort of like putting a supersonic windshield on a Cessna 150. That'll make it fly "supersonic", eh ??? We won't be bothered by the wings, the "propedder" or the fact that the wheels won't retract, it's got a windshield rated for supersonic speeds, so good to go.....
Keystone, KZ, GD, Jayco and all the rest "hang their hats" on "just enuf info" to be dangerous, but not "enuf to paint a complete picture" (and we won't discuss those nasty wheels hanging out there in the airstream) or the pin weight on that 12,000 KZ fifth wheel....
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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06-07-2022, 07:11 AM
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The term "lightweight" is not universal. The term "Lite" was invented I'm guessing by some smart ad man. The typical implication is that it describes something as being less than a similar product. Therefore, an unsuspecting or unaware consumer can order a "lite" burger and fries that only contain 1,000 calories because the "regular" meal contains 1,200 calories. Feel better now?
The terms "Light", "Lightweight", "Reduced whatever" are sales pitch buzzwords just like "New and improved". "Reformulated", "Doctor approved", "Limited edition", and the list goes on. And just like 1/2 ton towable, polar pkg., artic pkg, and many other advertising disceptions the bottom line is BUYER BEWARE.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
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06-07-2022, 08:38 AM
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DURANGO HALF-TON D291BHT
The 38' fifth wheel and almost 12K lbs gross weight is dubbed half ton towable. Wish I had kept my old F150. They claim 1550 lb "dry hitch weight" and there is a caveat at the bottom: *This weight reflects the rolling average unit weight for each model. Your trailer weight will vary according to optional equipment." This stuff should be illegal.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
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06-12-2022, 12:44 PM
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Light wei, 1/2 ton towable - always stated “with properly equipped “ . Most often that means an F150 with both heavy tow and heavy payload packages. Never found on the lot, have to order. May as well buy a 1 ton and be done no matter the manufacturer
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06-14-2022, 04:26 PM
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Ahh, don't forget repurposed
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