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Old 05-27-2020, 04:42 PM   #21
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Hi I have a 2017 f250 6.2 gas engine.
I currently tow a 2019 cougar 29rks I’m looking to trade up to the cougar 367 front living room it weights 11200 would I be able to tow it with the 250 I have

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Old 05-27-2020, 04:56 PM   #22
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... The OP has a 3/4 ton 6.2 gas truck. He's looking at a 14k 5th wheel trailer. ....

Danny,

I'm not sure where you're getting your information about the OP's 2019 cougar 29rks. It's a Cougar Half Ton with a shipping weight of 8801, a cargo capacity of 1599 and a GVW of 10,400 (not 14,000). The empty pin weight is listed at 1605 (18.3%). I'd guess that at GVW, the pin would be somewhere between 1800-2000 pounds.

Take a look at the specs again, I think you might change some of your thoughts about his F250/6.2l and that trailer.
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Old 05-27-2020, 04:58 PM   #23
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Welcome to the Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sure, Tom, jump right in there ROFLAO

Haven't seen you on here much this past few weeks. I hope you and your family are doing well...

Have you got your trailer home yet ??? Or is it still in Tawas ???
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:04 PM   #24
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Danny,

I'm not sure where you're getting your information about the OP's 2019 cougar 29rks. It's a Cougar Half Ton with a shipping weight of 8801, a cargo capacity of 1599 and a GVW of 10,400 (not 14,000). The empty pin weight is listed at 1605 (18.3%). I'd guess that at GVW, the pin would be somewhere between 1800-2000 pounds.

Take a look at the specs again, I think you might change some of your thoughts about his F250/6.2l and that trailer.

OP said he was looking to upgrade to a larger trailer and asking about how it worked with his current truck;

"looking to trade up to the cougar 367 front living room it weights 11200 would I be able to tow it with the 250 I have."

My comments are based on the specs for that trailer;

https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...s-fifth-wheel/

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Old 05-27-2020, 05:22 PM   #25
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OP said he was looking to upgrade to a larger trailer and asking about how it worked with his current truck;

"looking to trade up to the cougar 367 front living room it weights 11200 would I be able to tow it with the 250 I have."

My comments are based on the specs for that trailer;

https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...s-fifth-wheel/

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My point was based on the fact that this issue has been pounded to death so many times any serious question about the ability to tow a particular trailer would start with the numbers. His truck numbers; at the front of the list is payload. Anyone who has spent any time here will quickly come to the conclusion that the door sticker is where to start to get a reality check. I am not going to start guessing about his truck's configuration. He should be able to gauge his ability to tow on his own without folks doing the math for him... that would be ideal. I had suggested in the past that someone write a sticky with some basic tow-guide info but no one bit so the same stuff is rehashed ad nauseum. If the folks who keep posting the same info don't mind, neither do I.
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:30 PM   #26
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OP said he was looking to upgrade to a larger trailer and asking about how it worked with his current truck;

"looking to trade up to the cougar 367 front living room it weights 11200 would I be able to tow it with the 250 I have."

My comments are based on the specs for that trailer;

https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...s-fifth-wheel/

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Danny,

My apologies. I've slept two nights since I read his first post and missed the "looking to upgrade" part. You're right, I was looking at his current Cougar Half Ton as the trailer in question.... Yeah, I'd be concerned with a 14K GVW trailer pushing the truck GVWR and GCWR to the limit or maybe beyond.
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:32 PM   #27
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My point was based on the fact that this issue has been pounded to death so many times any serious question about the ability to tow a particular trailer would start with the numbers. His truck numbers; at the front of the list is payload. Anyone who has spent any time here will quickly come to the conclusion that the door sticker is where to start to get a reality check. I am not going to start guessing about his truck's configuration. He should be able to gauge his ability to tow on his own without folks doing the math for him... that would be ideal. I had suggested in the past that someone write a sticky with some basic tow-guide info but no one bit so the same stuff is rehashed ad nauseum. If the folks who keep posting the same info don't mind, neither do I.
George,

When you made that suggestion for a sticky, I told you that if you want to write it, I'll help you get it posted "in sticky format".... That offer still stands.
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Old 05-27-2020, 05:41 PM   #28
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Well, if the poster in post #5 has no problem with over weight or a stupid sticker that lists a vehicles max. wt's. and thinks over weight has no penalties. Put your money where your mouth is and pony up $10,000 and give to the person asking the question for a lawyers retainer fee. If it's never needed he could send it back to you.
That's the start of any lawsuit here that's needs a lawyer. Than around $250. an hour to do any work.
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My point was based on the fact that this issue has been pounded to death so many times any serious question about the ability to tow a particular trailer would start with the numbers. His truck numbers; at the front of the list is payload. Anyone who has spent any time here will quickly come to the conclusion that the door sticker is where to start to get a reality check. I am not going to start guessing about his truck's configuration. He should be able to gauge his ability to tow on his own without folks doing the math for him... that would be ideal. I had suggested in the past that someone write a sticky with some basic tow-guide info but no one bit so the same stuff is rehashed ad nauseum. If the folks who keep posting the same info don't mind, neither do I.
Many issues get "pounded to death". Many forum's would garner a curt response of "try the search buddy". Here, even when it's been discussed a bunch of times some of us like to give the person the benefit of doubt that the may not be proficient in their computer skills or maybe it's their first time on a forum.

So if this is just too much to bear for you I suggest you just stop reading.
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Hi I have a 2017 f250 6.2 gas engine.
I currently tow a 2019 cougar 29rks I’m looking to trade up to the cougar 367 front living room it weights 11200 would I be able to tow it with the 250 I have
Well with a gas engine you gain payload, but loose towing power. You have not given us much to go on.
What is the rear axle gear ratio?
What is the GCWR this is the weight of the TV and trailer.
I would say without at least a 4.10 gear ratio, you will not be happy with the towing experience.
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Old 05-28-2020, 07:14 AM   #31
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I have a similar setup as you do with the exception that I have a 2016 F350 6.2 and pull a 3571FWLFT at about 11,500 unloaded. Without knowing your truck specs, I'll assume you have a 4WD CCSB. Based on the Ford towing guide, you'd be right up against the max trailer weight if loading lightly if you have the 3.73 diff. If you have 4.10 rear gearing, you're rated up to 15,000 max trailer weight. The issue that you may have is the pin weight of the 5er that you're looking at. You'll really need to look at the available payload on your door sticker to get a better idea of what you can handle. When I was looking at 2017 F250's with the 6.2, I found quite a few XLTs that had payloads around the 3000-3300lb mark. This means that its possible with the right combinations of what trim level you have, rear gearing, how heavy you load up, and which hitch you choose... its possible to be right on the edge of being within the ratings.

As for power pulling that weight, it will really depend on where you plan to pull. I do fine pulling in the Midwest. It will scream going up steep grades, but will do it. The 6.2 is made to spin up to get the torque.

The quick response is that you'd be happier with an F350 to worry less about the numbers, and even happier with a diesel (as would I), but pulling a large 5er with our trucks isn't out of reach depending on the numbers. Can you provide a little more info on your truck and door sticker to get a little better idea of what you are working with?
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Danny,

My apologies. I've slept two nights since I read his first post and missed the "looking to upgrade" part. You're right, I was looking at his current Cougar Half Ton as the trailer in question.... Yeah, I'd be concerned with a 14K GVW trailer pushing the truck GVWR and GCWR to the limit or maybe beyond.


Ha! You're doing a lot better than me. If I was to get 2 good nights sleep in a row I would wake up in a whole new world!!
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Ha! You're doing a lot better than me. If I was to get 2 good nights sleep in a row I would wake up in a whole new world!!
Heard that! I'd settle for 2 hrs in a row. Chronic pain is a real paine!
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