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02-06-2023, 07:55 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Eugene
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Things I wish I had.... As others have already said, skip the 2500 if you are ordering new.
Other Stuff: (Above Standard Laramie Package)
Rear Cargo Camera
Auto Leveling Rear Suspension
12" Screen
50 Gallon Tank
Anti-Slip Rear Diff
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02-06-2023, 11:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Indiana
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I was thinking about this thread this morning when I was in town. I took the dually to the lumber yard so I could haul some 8 foot long boards in the bed without having them hang out the back, like my short bed truck does. When I came out of the store I glanced at my truck and realized there is ONE more thing you can add to that new truck, regardless if it's a 2500, 250, 3500, 350, dually, or single .... get mud flaps installed on the wheel wells if yours does not come with them. This is another item you'll never regret having, regardless of what make, model, brand, or size towing truck you have. .... mud flaps in the wheel-wells, all 4 (or 6) tires.
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2014 Chevy Duramax HD 6.6 - 3500 Diesel Dully Long bed Crew Cab
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02-06-2023, 02:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Mico, TX
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OK... if you have to give lists, cow catcher on the front to give you half a chance of surviving a deer attack and fuzzy dice on the mirror to add to the coolness factor. I actually have added those two items as well as rails to help an old person to get in the cab (me) but I think those have been mentioned.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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02-06-2023, 03:47 PM
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#44
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
OK... if you have to give lists, cow catcher on the front to give you half a chance of surviving a deer attack and fuzzy dice on the mirror to add to the coolness factor. I actually have added those two items as well as rails to help an old person to get in the cab (me) but I think those have been mentioned.
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Love the Fuzzy Dice!
You can’t mention running boards too often. DW made me installing a set on our 2001 Ram 4x4 2500 as a condition of buying it.
The 2016 had them when we bought it.
I had a brain cramp the other day and tried to step directly into the cab floor, I know why we have running boards.
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2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 14,000# GVWR (New TV)
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS 32’ GVWR 12,360
Visit and enjoy Oregon State Parks
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02-07-2023, 04:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germantown, TN
Posts: 6,335
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I also recommend the factory installed mud flaps. After some sorry dog stole my Rock Tamers (Who steals Rock Tamers right off the truck?) I had to have an after-market company install a permanent set right before our trip two years ago. I'm still fuming over the cost!
By the way, I thought fuzzy dice came standard in trucks these days......included with the expanded end tip exhaust pipe.
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2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
2001 Road king w/matching Harley sidecar
2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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02-07-2023, 08:11 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
Posts: 6,809
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Unless something has changed since I left, in Texas it was mandatory to have mud flaps on the rear of any vehicle with dual rear wheels.
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Sold '13 Redwood FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
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02-07-2023, 12:00 PM
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#47
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Mico, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin texans
Unless something has changed since I left, in Texas it was mandatory to have mud flaps on the rear of any vehicle with dual rear wheels.
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Correct. I was in the MVFD and took quite a few fire trucks with ripped off mud flaps and they failed safety inspection. These trucks were dual rear wheel. We had to take the trucks to the repair place the FD used and they charged a pretty penny to install a new mud flap (or flaps).
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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02-07-2023, 03:46 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: Westborough
Posts: 10
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Hello,
I want to thank you all for your options on the truck that I am looking to order. I have experience with tent camping and pulling a pop up tent trailer and driving a 27 foot Coachman RV, but the 5th wheel will be a new experience that I am looking forward to. As you all have experience with the 5th wheel set up I truly value your insight, of course I will add my lens to your suggestions regarding what is important to me both now and in the future. You have given me great things to consider.
A couple more questions..
1. What does OP stand for in this forum, I am sure when you tell me, I’ll say of course, but right now I can’t think of what it means.
2. For those of you who said you wanted a back window what opens, what are the scenarios where that comes in handy?
3. What about the truck bed cover, what are you using?
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02-07-2023, 03:53 PM
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#49
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Mico, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gretchen
Hello,
I want to thank you all for your options on the truck that I am looking to order. I have experience with tent camping and pulling a pop up tent trailer and driving a 27 foot Coachman RV, but the 5th wheel will be a new experience that I am looking forward to. As you all have experience with the 5th wheel set up I truly value your insight, of course I will add my lens to your suggestions regarding what is important to me both now and in the future. You have given me great things to consider.
A couple more questions..
1. What does OP stand for in this forum, I am sure when you tell me, I’ll say of course, but right now I can’t think of what it means.
2. For those of you who said you wanted a back window what opens, what are the scenarios where that comes in handy?
3. What about the truck bed cover, what are you using?
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1. OP stands for original poster (thread starter). 2. I have no idea why someone would want a back window. I don't really think I would want one. 3. "bed cover"? Are you talking about a coating? Most folks think bed mats are a bad idea in a non-coated truck bed. Moisture gets beneath and rust happens. Most folks with a new truck would want Rhino lining coating or similar. The selling dealer can probably set you up with a coating but you may be better off finding a Rhino lining dealer as the price may be less.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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02-07-2023, 04:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: USA and Canada
Posts: 873
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(1) OP is original poster.
(2) Beats me! I don't have one either!
(3) I have a Pace Edwards Electric Bedlocker on mine. It covers the hitch and keeps everything in my bed secure.
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02-07-2023, 04:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Upper Chesapeake Bay
Posts: 4,841
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gretchen
Hello,
I want to thank you all for your options on the truck that I am looking to order. I have experience with tent camping and pulling a pop up tent trailer and driving a 27 foot Coachman RV, but the 5th wheel will be a new experience that I am looking forward to. As you all have experience with the 5th wheel set up I truly value your insight, of course I will add my lens to your suggestions regarding what is important to me both now and in the future. You have given me great things to consider.
A couple more questions..
1. What does OP stand for in this forum, I am sure when you tell me, I’ll say of course, but right now I can’t think of what it means.
2. For those of you who said you wanted a back window what opens, what are the scenarios where that comes in handy?
3. What about the truck bed cover, what are you using?
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the sliding back window is nice if you drive with windows down…it keeps the wind from making a helicopter sound and changes the flow of the air, it blows in thru the back window and helps equalize the air pressure in the cab..less turbulence
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2020 Ram 3500 6.7HO 4.10 Dually Aisin
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02-07-2023, 04:14 PM
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#52
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,224
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We have the opening back window, don't use often, as in the PNW it rains a lot.
Bed cover, we have a simple vinyl roll-up cover that doesn't block rear view when stored. Yes, it can be cut, but keeps prying eyes out of the bed.
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Russ & Paula and Belle the Beagle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 14,000# GVWR (New TV)
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS 32’ GVWR 12,360
Visit and enjoy Oregon State Parks
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02-07-2023, 05:53 PM
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#53
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gretchen
Hello,
I want to thank you all for your options on the truck that I am looking to order. I have experience with tent camping and pulling a pop up tent trailer and driving a 27 foot Coachman RV, but the 5th wheel will be a new experience that I am looking forward to. As you all have experience with the 5th wheel set up I truly value your insight, of course I will add my lens to your suggestions regarding what is important to me both now and in the future. You have given me great things to consider.
A couple more questions..
1. What does OP stand for in this forum, I am sure when you tell me, I’ll say of course, but right now I can’t think of what it means.
2. For those of you who said you wanted a back window what opens, what are the scenarios where that comes in handy?
3. What about the truck bed cover, what are you using?
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The OP question has been answered. The sliding back window is an acquired usage thing I guess. I've had them and not had them. The last 3 trucks (and others before) had them and I've never used it other than to speak to my wife while hitching unhitching. When young and liking wind in my hair I would open it with my windows for more circulation but I drove pickups for 64 years and most didn't have it....and didn't miss it. You may have a special purpose where it would be handy but only you would know that.
Truck bed cover - If talking bed liners get the coating from the manufacturer. Bed covers come in lots of types. I use a 4 section BakFlip cover that's a solid cover that supports 400lbs. on top IIRC. There are roll ups, electric roll ups, vinyl, floppy ones, solid ones, lockable ones, flimsy ones....you need to look into them and see what fits your needs. I chose mine because it's solid, hard to break into vs many of the others and lasts - it's on the 3rd (4th?) truck since I bought it.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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02-08-2023, 06:29 AM
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#54
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Onaga, KS
Posts: 466
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I fully agree with those encouraging you to consider the 3500 from the beginning. It becomes costly when you purchase such a piece of equipment that fits the present need only to realize that when you decide to upgrade, the truck needs to be upgraded as well!
We had the first version of the F350 7.3 DI with waste gate turbo in the 1990s was powerful, stable and wish we still had it. The only issue was the toll charges in the Northeast, some toll booths charged for an additional axle with the dually when towing.
I believe the feature is standard on the larger RAMs, but make sure that it is equipped with the air lift system. The air bags level the suspension when you're loaded / towing, this keeps the vehicle level, provides increased overall control, and doesn't have your headlight searching for owls in the trees or blinding oncoming traffic. Good luck with your selection process!
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02-08-2023, 09:49 AM
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#55
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
Posts: 6,809
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I've had trucks with & without opening back windows, I would not pay extra for that option, but wouldn't turn down the truck if it had all the other options I wanted due to that back window.
If I were to buy another truck there would be 2 things that it would have,
#1 the Amp power steps, when you open the door it activates the step, close the door they fold back up. I know folks that live in snowy areas have problems with them freezing up, but I don't ever plan to be in those areas in the winter.
#2 the RollnLock bed cover. My son has this on his truck, unlock it & a slight push & it's completely opened or partially, pull the strap & it's closed. Supposedly able to stand in the middle of it without damage. You do lose about 8" of the top bed rail in the front for it to roll into.
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Sold '13 Redwood FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
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02-08-2023, 10:12 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 46
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Do you plan to do any boondocking? If so, you might consider an upgraded (or even dual) alternator. I've heard a few people say that they wished that they had this for camping.
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02-09-2023, 04:15 AM
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#57
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Germantown, TN
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Has anyone been keeping up with a list of 'must-haves' for Gretchen? Near as I can tell she is up to, at the very least, a 3500 dually just to haul these options and $108,000.
Gretchen, at least you have some things to ponder. But it was fun spending your money for you!
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2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
2001 Road king w/matching Harley sidecar
2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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02-09-2023, 05:44 AM
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#58
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Has anyone been keeping up with a list of 'must-haves' for Gretchen? Near as I can tell she is up to, at the very least, a 3500 dually just to haul these options and $108,000.
Gretchen, at least you have some things to ponder. But it was fun spending your money for you!
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LOL, yes we can do a great job of spending other members money!
I went out to the Ram truck site and as close as I could rebuilt our 2016 Ram Laramie DRW. Well the MSRP on ours was $69,005, the 2023 I built came to $89,870 and I didn't add the sunroof that we have a $1,000 option!
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Russ & Paula and Belle the Beagle.
2016 Ram Laramie 3500 DRW 14,000# GVWR (New TV)
2005 Copper Canyon 293 FWSLS 32’ GVWR 12,360
Visit and enjoy Oregon State Parks
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02-09-2023, 09:06 AM
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#59
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Parker
Posts: 253
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gretchen
Ah 2 votes for the 3500..I will test drive
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Three. I suspect the reason 2500 trucks exist is to sell two trucks.
Went from a 2500 that was pulling a bumper pull at max payload to a 3500 dually that has 2000 lbs above any beyond pulling the trailer. Night and DAY improvement.
(2021 GMC 3500HD purchased in 2022 with 20,000 miles on the clock: $82k)
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2019 Grand Design 351M
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02-09-2023, 09:11 AM
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#60
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: Yuma
Posts: 1
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2500 gas
I have a 2019 gas ram 2500 and the same trailer. I wanted a diesel, wife said gas, she was right. 3077 lbs payload, $10 k cheaper, 10.5 mpg at 62 mph. Never getting a bigger trailer, in our 70's, just us and two little 4 footed kids. Truck goes a little slower up hills, but I'm not in a hurry. We start from Reno, so every trip starts uphill. Basically everything is less expensive than a diesel, fuel, maintenance, etc. We're on fixed income so costs are a big factor. If your situation is like ours, then this is the perfect truck, it's a Laramie with all the bells and whistles. Hope this helps
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