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07-29-2023, 02:56 AM
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Junior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Welcome to the forum, lots of great folks with tons of knowledge and willing to help.
I hate to mention this, but have you looked at the payload on that truck or scaled the rig? That is an 11k gvwr 5th wheel on a 1/2 ton truck. I'm thinking you may be overweight???
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That didn’t take long…. I’m out
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07-29-2023, 04:59 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vannooch
That didn’t take long…. I’m out
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Sorry, it's such an obvious potential mismatch and the elephant in the room. Towing something that large is serious and not a game. You can ignore the situation in your mind....but it won't be ignored in real life come the right place and time.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
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07-29-2023, 05:00 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
He has no profile or signature. How did you know this? Did he post this elsewhere?
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Got it in his profile.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-29-2023, 05:26 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vannooch
That didn’t take long…. I’m out
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If "truly out", then this likely will never be seen, but....
The 2018 Titan "gas engine truck" has a curb weight in the 5600 pound range and a GVWR in the 7300 pound range. That leaves a payload around the 1700 pound range. (all come from the "official" Nissan site)...
So, with a Cougar "Half Ton" 29RLI having a shipping weight of 8893 and a "empty" pin weight of 1630, by the time you add a battery and 60 pounds of propane along with one of those "36 pound aluminum hitches", it looks like the only "safe way to stay under the payload" is to tow an empty trailer with no passengers and never fill the gas tank over half full..... Otherwise, a MANDATORY trip to a CAT scale will either "prove this wrong" or "validate the overweight condition"....
I know which way I'd make my wager, but for the poster's sake, I'd hope I'm wrong..... Only common sense and a CAT scale ticket will determine the outcome.....
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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07-29-2023, 05:37 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2023
Location: Greensburg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
If "truly out", then this likely will never be seen, but....
The 2018 Titan "gas engine truck" has a curb weight in the 5600 pound range and a GVWR in the 7300 pound range. That leaves a payload around the 1700 pound range. (all come from the "official" Nissan site)...
So, with a Cougar "Half Ton" 29RLI having a shipping weight of 8893 and a "empty" pin weight of 1630, by the time you add a battery and 60 pounds of propane along with one of those "36 pound aluminum hitches", it looks like the only "safe way to stay under the payload" is to tow an empty trailer with no passengers and never fill the gas tank over half full..... Otherwise, a MANDATORY trip to a CAT scale will either "prove this wrong" or "validate the overweight condition"....
I know which way I'd make my wager, but for the poster's sake, I'd hope I'm wrong..... Only common sense and a CAT scale ticket will determine the outcome.....
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It’s an XD plenty of truck for the trailer. Ya all come out of the gate swinging and you didn’t even read the post correctly.
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07-29-2023, 05:54 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vannooch
It’s an XD plenty of truck for the trailer. Ya all come out of the gate swinging and you didn’t even read the post correctly.
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No one came out swinging. An XD is a 1/2 ton truck. A 5th wheel, even the lightest, need a minimum of a 3/4 ton. As was pointed out it will be literally impossible to tow that trailer without being overweight if you just put the empty trailer on the truck. Your post indicated you wanted room in the bed to put some bikes in it when at camp....those bikes had to get there some way and all that takes off the small payload of the truck. What does the yellow/white payload sticker inside the driver door say just to sort of clear the air? That is the first thing one has to know in lieu of a scale ticket.
The questions/comments are to help you, not attack you. Far too many think a "truck" is a "truck" and they're not. Nissan tried to make the XD sound like a HD truck....it's not.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-29-2023, 02:29 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Elm Mott
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rhagfo
I am seriously thinking of switching to a Reese Goosebox, with the puck system on our 2016 Ram 3500 the ball Lilly weighs 8#.
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I changed out my fifthwheel hitch to a Reese Goosebox with the air bag suspension. I heard that this Reese is the only one that the frame manufacturer will accept in their frame warranty. No more fifth wheel hitch in the bed of the one ton truck I pulled it with. I have a different truck now but it also has the B&W flip over ball. Pull a lever, remove the ball, flip it over and the bed is clean and flat.
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08-01-2023, 05:45 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Houston
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When I bought my 5th wheel in late 2022, I had the dealer install the Reese Goosebox. It rides nicely. No issues so far. I'm happy with it.
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08-01-2023, 06:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Huntsville
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I too am in the process of swapping to the Reese Goose box, but my 1st one showed up at the door with on side of it curled/bent inwards.....hmmmm , so I called the seller and ask for a replacement. Waitin on the big rig to come pick up the old one and drop off the 2 nd new one. fingers crossed this one will not have been dropped somewhere along the route to my house. My 5th wheel is new and I am siding on the safe side this time.
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2022 Keystone Cougar Half Ton 24RDS
Reese Goosebox 20K
2005 F250 6.0L 4x4 Diesel SRW
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09-17-2023, 11:07 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Cass County Missouri
Posts: 56
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Reese Goosebox is the bomb!!
I pull a 2014 Keystone Sprinter 5th wheel with a 2500 Ram Diesel using the Ram puck system.
Originally was pulling the same trailer with a 2500 Chevy gasser using a Curt Q20 and slider. The Curt 5th wheel is a solid system but no suspension. The Chevy bounced and surged all over the place, even after replacing the shocks horrible ride.
I did the research and decided to go with the Reese Goosebox. Once you get your trailer hooked up and loaded just air the bladder up while watching the sight glass for the level arm to be in the middle and your done. Night and day ride compared to a regular kingpin system. I LOVE my set up!! Plus pulling with a diesel is no comparison, just set the cruise set back and steer. When I'm ready to hook up I just put the ball in the hole, put the chain connects in their holes and hook up. Because you are pulling a trailer with a ball you have to have chains attached.
I highly recommend the Reese Goosebox!! The Momma is happy now.
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09-22-2023, 03:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: LA
Posts: 467
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I did the gen y gooseneck. The thing has been amazing.
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