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10-17-2020, 08:14 AM
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2013 keystone raptor electrical issue
I have a 2013 keystone raptor toy hauler and am hauling so e sort of electrical issue. I have no power to my water pump, water heater and several lights in the bottom storage area. None of the lights are on beside any fuses and my GFCI receptacle was not popped. What other things can I trouble shoot to get this working again? Thanks for any suggestions
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10-17-2020, 08:20 AM
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welcome to the forum 
The GFCI outlet is part of the 110VAC side of the electrical system and has zero to do with your issue. All the circuits not working are 12VDC.
Start at the battery. What condition is it in? have you tested it for voltage/charge? if it hasnt been replaced, now wpoould be the time to do so. does everything work if your plugged into shore power? if so then we need to look at the battery cutoff and maybe the reverse polarity fuses. at this point please answer:
ARE YOU PLUGGED INTO SHORE POWER?
HAVE YOU TESTED THE BATTERY?
HAVE YOU CHECKED THE BATTERY CUT OFF?
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-17-2020, 09:04 AM
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Yes this is happening while it’s plugged in and also when unplugged with the generator running. It has all brand new batteries also.
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10-17-2020, 09:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarbRaptor
Yes this is happening while it’s plugged in and also when unplugged with the generator running. It has all brand new batteries also.
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Is there a chance you could have reversed the battery cable? If you do that even for a split second it will blow out the reverse polarity fuses. There should be two fuses separated from the others. They typically are 40 amp fuses. Remove them and test them with an ohm meter, do not trust just a visual inspection.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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10-17-2020, 10:40 AM
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Any idea where these fuses would be located? I’ve checked everything fuse in the panel...
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10-17-2020, 10:48 AM
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If you could post a picture of your panel or if you know the model number that would help.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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10-17-2020, 11:05 AM
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It’s a 2013 raptor 365LEV
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10-17-2020, 11:22 AM
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Trying to post picture of panel
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10-17-2020, 11:28 AM
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Ok. Your converter will be a stand alone unit, should be behind that breaker panel. There will be 2 40A fuses on the back of the converter where the large gauge leads are. Don’t just look at them, test them.
If your trailer is a fifth wheel, and the panel is near the steps up to the bedroom, it might be easier to access the converter from the storage area, just remove the screws holding the rear wall.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-17-2020, 11:39 AM
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Ok we just tested all 3 and they are all working
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10-17-2020, 11:51 AM
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Tested which 3?
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-17-2020, 12:02 PM
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There were 3 35amp fuses behind the panel and we checked all 3 fuses and they were all working
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10-17-2020, 12:11 PM
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Ok. now its time to test the converter. Its probably plugged into an outlet on the back side of the breaker panel or a seperate outet. Using a plug checker make sure its providing 110VAC to the converter. Then test the leads of the converter using a DC meter, your looking for 13+ VDC.
We are taking this one step at a time to make sure we check everything.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-17-2020, 01:32 PM
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I don’t have a plug checker but we did check the leads and they are all reading above 13
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10-17-2020, 01:36 PM
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If the converter is producing 13+ VDC, it’s working correctly. Now you need to start testing fuses in the fuse panel.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-17-2020, 01:51 PM
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8 of the fuses in our panel are not receiving very limited power anywhere from 0.04-2 volts
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10-17-2020, 01:52 PM
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So what could be causing my fuse panel to not be receiving sufficient power supply
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10-17-2020, 02:01 PM
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I would be looking at the leads from the converter to the fuse panel. Something isn’t right with either the converter or maybe your meter ( set to wrong scale?)
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-17-2020, 02:36 PM
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All the wires look intact there isn’t any obvious chewed or hanging wires
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10-17-2020, 03:42 PM
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Looks doesn’t count. Meters don’t lie.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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