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Old 02-06-2018, 08:04 AM   #61
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Did I mention, I am cheap !

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So was I and didn’t have the money on hand right when the friend thot I needed to buy it NOW. Plus, 16+ years without one. How could I possibly go wrong if I waited another year. Thankfully he was more bull headed then I! Very next 3 trips it saved me. I asked him how he knew I was going to need it.

Two refrigerators, two converters, a tv (since I would not have replaced it as I don’t use it) two micro waves, plus what else would have burnt up in two situations? The other was low voltage so maybe not as critical? The Progressive Dynamics EMS looks like peanuts now. Another friend who also hooked up to 3phase unknowingly said it cost him over $3000. I’m still the cheap one as he paid lots more then I did.
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Old 02-06-2018, 08:14 AM   #62
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Here's the same one for $229 on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EMS-HW30C-R...dRnDp5&vxp=mtr

Does not ship to Canada !



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Old 02-06-2018, 08:16 AM   #63
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My advice is save the $144 on the minimum protection til you save the other half for maximum protection.
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Old 02-06-2018, 08:21 AM   #64
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So was I and didn’t have the money on hand right when the friend thot I needed to buy it NOW. Plus, 16+ years without one. How could I possibly go wrong if I waited another year.

The Progressive Dynamics EMS looks like peanuts now.

I think you misunderstand me, I have the money to buy it now, I just want the very best price for the same item.

I will be getting one this spring before hitting the road. It is cheap insurance.

Right now I have snow on the driveway, a glacier in my back yard and this morning it was -10 F. No rush to freeze my digits doing this upgrade.

I guess it comes back to costs that the manufacturers don't install them before sale.

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Old 02-06-2018, 08:23 AM   #65
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My advice is save the $144 on the minimum protection til you save the other half for maximum protection.

That has me confused, can you please explain what I am missing ?


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Old 02-06-2018, 11:03 AM   #66
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I guess it comes back to costs that the manufacturers don't install them before sale.

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I too think now that it should be a standard item from the factory. I got mine from a friend who bought it for his new motor home only to discover it came from the factory with one. He and his wife insisted I needed it and sold theirs, still in the box to me on the spot. First time they saw my new rig.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:27 PM   #67
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Sorry misreading, thought they said it was only "surge" protection not the EMS.
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Old 02-07-2018, 07:50 PM   #68
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Sounds like a trip south of the 49th is due this spring to buy one and install it before heading back. Most have said it's an way install.

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Old 02-08-2018, 03:28 AM   #69
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Does not ship to Canada !



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Just courious, what if someone in Northern US accepts one that you pay for with free shipping and then forwards it on up to you...is that an option? Maybe someone in WA or MT to minimize US shipping.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:10 AM   #70
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Just courious, what if someone in Northern US accepts one that you pay for with free shipping and then forwards it on up to you...is that an option? Maybe someone in WA or MT to minimize US shipping.

Yes that would work. I have a drop box at Sweetgrass MT that I use for stuff that US companies will not ship internationally. It is called Montana Shipping Outlet, they have one in Eureka also. I have had it for 5 years and used it twice.

http://www.montanashipping.com/monta...ng-sweetgrass/

They charge $5 per transaction up to 50 lbs. Their facility is located about 1/4 mile from the border. There a bunch of buildings located in the same yard, MS, UPS, FEDEX, USPS, MTS, USF & Con-way.

All of these companies exchange packages across the parking lot using trucks, trailers and hand carts.

You substitute their unique address for yours when ordering and when it arrives at Sweetgrass they send you a email advising you. I normally ride the Goldwing down there as I am going for a ride anyway. Pure travel time Bragg Creek to Sweetgrass is 4 hours one way depending on how hard I twist the wick.


These drop box outlets are all along the 49th from Manitoba to BC and do a land office business. My BIL in Winnipeg is into cars and he orders most of his parts from the US and picks them up at Noyes MN.

On the lower mainland there are plenty of businesses that travel daily to Blaine WA and use USPS to mail parcels back into Canada because it is cheaper. Does that make any sense ?

Well that was a long explanation to a short question.

Even the cheapest Progressive one you guys have found at $246.40 USD converts to $309.41 CAD. That is same price as the one on Amazon.ca that ships out of Nova Scotia.

I am not pulling the trigger as yet and will still be looking for sales and whatnot.
If I can find one cheaper, then a bike ride to Sweetgrass will be in order.


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Old 02-08-2018, 08:00 AM   #71
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I'm a believer in using the pole mounted Progressive EMS and keep the termination point of the light strike outside my RV and away from the fuse panel. A few years ago when my progress took a surge from a lightning strike it jumped from the Progressive to the service pole a space of about 12 inches and I don't want that happening inside my RV and that close to my main fuse panel. Progressive replace it free of charge and the one I sent in was not repairable.
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What's the advantage of either portable or hardwired
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Old 02-10-2018, 05:28 PM   #73
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What's the advantage of either portable or hardwired


Both have their advantages. I prefer hardwired as I don’t have to think about it. Just plug in and keep setting up. 120 second delay so when it does power up things are all good. I have remote display so at anytime I can look and see how many volts are being supplied and how many amps I am using without getting dressed. Any problem is also displayed.

Disadvantage is when you sell/trade, you either have to let it go or deal with removal.

Portable, you plug into the pedestal and plug your trailer into it. When you sell/trade you keep it for the next one. Either way SOMETHING is better than nothing.
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Is there a way to keep the portable one from getting stolen
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What keeps the portable one from being stolen
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My portable obviously plugs into the ped; it then plugs into my RV power cord that plugs into the trailer. At the junction of the surge protector cord and the RV cord I have a factory made enclosure that covers the plugged connectors with a padlock on it. You cannot unplug the protector from the RV cable without protracted effort. The only options are to cut the cables; work on getting into the protective cover/padlock or take the entire RV cable/surge protector assembly. I'm happy. In 4 years I've not even had a hint of a problem.
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There are locks that cover the trailer cord and the outlet side of the EMS. I suppose if someone wanted it bad enough they could cut your shore cord and then when they got to another location they can take the time to dismantle the locking device.
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There are locks that cover the trailer cord and the outlet side of the EMS. I suppose if someone wanted it bad enough they could cut your shore cord and then when they got to another location they can take the time to dismantle the locking device.

Cutting the shore power cord is just God's way of thinning the shallow end of the gene pool, IMO.



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Cutting the shore power cord is just God's way of thinning the shallow end of the gene pool, IMO.







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If it’s plugged in.
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There are locks that cover the trailer cord and the outlet side of the EMS. I suppose if someone wanted it bad enough they could cut your shore cord and then when they got to another location they can take the time to dismantle the locking device.
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