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Old 06-17-2024, 03:24 PM   #1
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Which small couples 5th wheel

Hello, currently we have a lance travel trailer. We are considering getting a smaller 5th wheel. We find the lance is just not enough room for us and the 2 small dogs. I drive a 2020 gmc at4 hd diesel truck(2500). We like quality and preferable under 32 ft total length. My truck is already prepared for a 5th wheel hitch. We are looking around currently. We like the cougar 23mle but the TV looks to be high in the living area. We also looked at the brinkley 2900 but the cost is very high. Any thoughts?
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Old 06-17-2024, 03:42 PM   #2
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Hello, currently we have a lance travel trailer. We are considering getting a smaller 5th wheel. We find the lance is just not enough room for us and the 2 small dogs. I drive a 2020 gmc at4 hd diesel truck(2500). We like quality and preferable under 32 ft total length. My truck is already prepared for a 5th wheel hitch. We are looking around currently. We like the cougar 23mle but the TV looks to be high in the living area. We also looked at the brinkley 2900 but the cost is very high. Any thoughts?
First, are you in the UK or is there a Whitby in the USA? I like the Arcadia 21SRK as it looks to be a good couples coach. TV is mounted above the dinette across from the loveseat recliner though. The Arcadia Super Lite 248SLRE is also a nice looking floorplan for a couple with the TV in the corner across from the theater seating (or sofa bed). Only issue I saw was limited kitchen counter space.
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Old 06-17-2024, 04:05 PM   #3
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Old 06-17-2024, 04:18 PM   #4
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The Cougar 24RDS is a nice couples unit and is under 30’. Very similar layout as ours from the entry door forward, (ours has a rear bedroom/office). The pin weight “should” be okay with your truck even with a diesel.

The TV isn’t a notable issue on ours because it tilts, pivots and swivels for a wide viewing angle from the theater seating (twin recliners with center arm rest and heat and massage).
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Old 06-17-2024, 05:13 PM   #5
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We have a 23MLE and were worried about the TV as well. We don't love it, but it's actually pretty functional for us (realize it may not be for you). There is a facebook group that has good coverage of everyones MODs, issues, and likes/dislikes here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/593918965576655/

Worth joining if you are considering one. I joined a similar one for the Jayco Eagle when I was looking.
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Old 06-24-2024, 05:50 AM   #6
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We have a 23RDS. The TV is not an issue. But there are a couple of things we preferred on our travel trailer. We lost storage space in the basement with the Cougar. Also the stairs to the BR aren’t accessible when the slides are in. Slides have to be extended to get to the bathroom if we stop for a quick lunch.
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Old 06-24-2024, 06:01 AM   #7
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My wife liked the 23mle at first but then she seen the flagstaff/ Rockwood 281RK. Lots of counter space, huge oven. Both slides are rack and pinion. 16 inch Goodyear tires, solid surface countertop. The queen bed slide out gives alot of walkaround space and tons of storage. I'm still looking around. Staying under 11k GVW. Reading about hitches and pin boxes. Lots to choose from. I have a6.5 bed on my 2020 gm 2500 truck. Guessing I'll need a slider.
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Old 06-24-2024, 06:38 AM   #8
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Reading about hitches and pin boxes. Lots to choose from. I have a6.5 bed on my 2020 gm 2500 truck. Guessing I'll need a slider.
You may not actually need a slider.
Of course there are quite a few that say you should, just in case.

With most newer 5th wheels that have a more rounded streamlined front cap, a slider isn't needed as much as it used to be.

2019 GMC 2500HD (gas) with the standard 6.5 bed.
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Pulling our Cougar 24RDS, I have not even come close to needing a slider hitch.
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Old 06-24-2024, 06:40 AM   #9
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The need for a slider hitch is very subjective. A lot depends on the nose of the 5er and in your ability as a driver. We had short bed trucks for many years and never had an issue. But you have to be aware of your parameters and pay attention. A slider is a good solution but they are very heavy and could have an impact on your payload limitations.

IMHO a short bed should NOT automatically mean a slider hitch...there are other options. It's really about your comfort level and getting what works for you.

As to trailers, there are several good floorplans in smaller trailers. Again, very subjective and only you can really decide the right one. I've watched many factory tour videos to see how various brands are constructed. Rockwood/Flagstaff appears to be a well-built product. Of course any of them can have human-error problems.
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Old 06-24-2024, 06:41 AM   #10
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Nice picture, sure looks like alot of room up front.
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Old 06-24-2024, 06:50 AM   #11
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Lol, you got that right. Our new lance travel trailer in 2020 had many issues, and it's an expensive trailer. Leaking roof vents x3, door hinge fell apart, screen door latch broken from the start, then a bunch of minor stuff, knobs falling off, plastic plugs falling off, a drawer coming apart. Lol. Fixed them all. I wonder if the manufacturers will ever do better.
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You may not actually need a slider.
Of course there are quite a few that say you should, just in case.

With most newer 5th wheels that have a more rounded streamlined front cap, a slider isn't needed as much as it used to be.

2019 GMC 2500HD (gas) with the standard 6.5 bed.
B&W Companion hitch (non-slider)

Pulling our Cougar 24RDS, I have not even come close to needing a slider hitch.
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We have the “short bed” F250 and a fixed hitch (Curt A-16). The closest we have come to a clearance issue is with the tailgate down and connecting/disconnecting. Otherwise, we have plenty of room to maneuver without any issue or concern.
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Old 06-24-2024, 02:14 PM   #13
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Hello, currently we have a lance travel trailer. We are considering getting a smaller 5th wheel. We find the lance is just not enough room for us and the 2 small dogs. I drive a 2020 gmc at4 hd diesel truck(2500). We like quality and preferable under 32 ft total length. My truck is already prepared for a 5th wheel hitch. We are looking around currently. We like the cougar 23mle but the TV looks to be high in the living area. We also looked at the brinkley 2900 but the cost is very high. Any thoughts?
Well I just traded in my Cougar 28SGS and went to a Brinkley Z2900. Though we liked the Cougar, we didn't like things like dark interior and staples coming out and having to put the moulding back. No serious problems Get decent tires if you go Keystone, not sure what they put on new now. But the Brinkley is no comparison. So solid. Light color interior, lots of windows, larger bathroom, nicer shower, very functional AC (2) units, solar panel and prepped for inverter. Overall it is twice the RV, but twice plus the price. Dealers are selling down in the 75-85K and we fell in that range. Finding them may be hard. Folks notice this RV as a different appearing and new fresh look. We just did our maiden trip last weekend, boondocking, no issues, everything works great, the leveling system is hydraulic over electric and works very quickly. Very livable just like the Cougar was. Can't go wrong with either.
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Old 06-24-2024, 03:17 PM   #14
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Josh the RV Nerd put together a video of 5th wheel trailers under 30'
He's a bit of a goof but there may be some info here you can use.

We have a 30' Cougar and it's great for the two of us.
Best of luck with your search.
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Old 06-27-2024, 07:37 AM   #15
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We have a 2019 Hideout 262RES. 31' and love it. Perfect size for a couple and we had two small dogs with us too. We'd also considered a Cougar 25RES, but decided to go with the Hideout based on the price difference.
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Old 06-27-2024, 07:41 AM   #16
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We looked at the cougar 23mle but then we seen the Rockwood 281RK. The flagstaff 281rk is the same. Huge oven, nice kitchen and nice bedroom with the queen bed. My wife likes this one. Well see if anything at the rv show in October is better. At the end of the day, need to keep her happy lol lol.
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Old 06-28-2024, 03:51 AM   #17
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Hello, currently we have a lance travel trailer. We are considering getting a smaller 5th wheel. We find the lance is just not enough room for us and the 2 small dogs. I drive a 2020 gmc at4 hd diesel truck(2500). We like quality and preferable under 32 ft total length. My truck is already prepared for a 5th wheel hitch. We are looking around currently. We like the cougar 23mle but the TV looks to be high in the living area. We also looked at the brinkley 2900 but the cost is very high. Any thoughts?
We have a Cougar 23MLE and love it. The TV is not an issue. We looked at the Rockwood 281RK and much prefered the Rockwood bedroom but not the living area. We will not have a camper that does not have seating on the campside. We much prefer the living area and kitchen in the Cougar. It is missing a fireplace but we put one in the coffee hutch. There is a ton of storage, high quality cabinets and especially like the quiet AC. The Rockwood does have a ceiling fan and kitchen vent but those are not enough to put it over the Cougar. We have a Ford F250D and highly recommend the Curt A-16 hitch. Lastly we would prefer the old switches to the in-command system. But overall the Cougar works for us and our German Shorthaired pointer.
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