Washer and Dryer

Big1 · 11-09-2019, 11:31 PM

Looking on installing a washer and dryer in my 5th wheel so I wanted to ask here. I ran a cross a EdgeStar non-vented washer and dryer on Offer-up today, they are selling it for $599.00 the lady said that they use it one time so it look like a pretty good deal, what do you guys say. One thing that I'm looking at that I don't have to drill a 4' hole in my 5th wheel but anyway give me your comments.
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tech740 · 11-10-2019, 12:23 AM

On a non-vented where does that humidity go? I can understand not wanting to drill but to me that is just part of it. Seems like you would need very good ventilation inside to combat the condensation from the drying process.

rbrdriver · 11-10-2019, 01:23 AM

In our rig we installed a stackable washer/dryer set, and yes it is vented. I was nervous about drilling the 4 inch hole in a new trailer, but with a lot of measuring and double checking we did it. Works great!!

notanlines · 11-10-2019, 03:14 AM

I would never, under any circumstances, have a non-vented in my RV. Moisture is a serious enemy of your unit. And not cutting a vent in your unit is not an advantage. But it's your call...

**flybouy** · 11-10-2019, 05:40 AM

I've never been fortunate enough to own a camper capable of holding a washer/dryer. Every camper I have owned has required measures to deal with moisture from showers, cooking, washing dishes, human perspiration, and humans & animals exhaling.

If given a choice I would not choose to add several cups of water to that mix in an enclosed, unvented area every time a load of laundry was done.

**JRTJH** · 11-10-2019, 06:33 AM

Add one more "vote to vent" ....

Moisture complaints ranging from mold/mildew to delamination and rot are posted on this forum every day. ALL (not part, but ALL) of that moisture comes from water. Pouring water into the trailer in the form of steam from a dryer is the same as pouring water into the trailer from a leak in the roof, a window or road spray while towing. It's ALL going to damage the trailer and cause problems...

Vent or don't get a dryer if you want a "dry RV".....

**chuckster57** · 11-10-2019, 06:53 AM

Having installed both, I can say vented is the only way to go and seperate machines NOT a combo.

travelin texans · 11-10-2019, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckster57

Having installed both, I can say vented is the only way to go and seperate machines NOT a combo.

Had both types, both vented & totally agree!!
Get separates with a vented dryer.
Might ask the seller why if only used once are they selling it? If guessing it's the same reason we're telling you not to.

**flybouy** · 11-10-2019, 08:23 AM

Just did a quick search on "Edgestar" washer and dryer. Amazon has reviews but not available for ordering. Edgestar.com does not list any washer or dryers. Maybe they no longer sell them. Big red flag to me.

**JRTJH** · 11-10-2019, 08:58 AM

The Edgestar CS1550 combination washer/dryer is listed here for $527 with free shipping. https://www.compactappliance.com/sea...&term=CWD1550W When you click on that link, it shows "discontinued" (but we still have parts). I'd wonder how long they'll have parts and whether an "upgraded CS1510 combo" is worth more after being discontinued than it cost new????

Additionally, on the Amazon link https://www.amazon.com/EdgeStar-Vent...ews/B009A8MWFY to that product, the reviews are 5 stars: 43% and 1 star: 35%....

I'd think that if it's discontinued, over 1/3 of buyers were unhappy with the product and it's being sold for more than it cost new.... That's 3 red flags.... YMMV

Big1 · 11-11-2019, 12:52 AM

Awesome, thank you guys I appreciate, this will keep me from regretting getting it down the road so I guess that I won't take no short cut but just go with what I was thinking about anyway.

NotyetMHCowner · 11-11-2019, 11:41 AM

I installed our Splendid vented combo myself. I read that the non-vented sent extra water to the gray tank during the drying process and that the clothes were always very wrinkled. After a lot of measuring and drilling a small pilot hole then some more measuring it was fine to drill the 4" hole.

Big1 · 11-11-2019, 05:54 PM

Great, I think I go that route on get the vented one and doing it myself.

terrymullett · 11-12-2019, 05:30 PM

We got the Splendide non-vented. Haven't had a lot of trouble with wrinkling and for the way we dress probably wouldn't be bothered by it anyway, but as NotyetMHCowner mentioned the moisture goes into the gray tank (shower gray tank for us). Fills up a tank pretty quick too :-D So remains to be seen, it's still new to us. I read that in some European cities with older stone-walled buildings, ventless dryers are the default. I'm not that impressed personally but didn't have my heart set on any particular outcome. This is more the Good Lady Wife's project. Laundramats aren't the worst places I've ever been.

tech740 · 11-13-2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by terrymullett

We got the Splendide non-vented. Haven't had a lot of trouble with wrinkling and for the way we dress probably wouldn't be bothered by it anyway, but as NotyetMHCowner mentioned the moisture goes into the gray tank (shower gray tank for us). Fills up a tank pretty quick too :-D So remains to be seen, it's still new to us. I read that in some European cities with older stone-walled buildings, ventless dryers are the default. I'm not that impressed personally but didn't have my heart set on any particular outcome. This is more the Good Lady Wife's project. Laundramats aren't the worst places I've ever been.

Do you mean the moisture from drying clothes or the water from the wash cycle goes in the gray tank? I have not used one so I find this interesting.

**JRTJH** · 11-13-2019, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tech740

Do you mean the moisture from drying clothes or the water from the wash cycle goes in the gray tank? I have not used one so I find this interesting.

Both. There is a "condensation collector" built into the dryer that uses cool water to condense the steam in the exhaust and redirect it to the gray tank (both the cool water and the condensation) to keep it from being discharged into the interior of the trailer. That cool water adds a significant amount of "water discharge" over and above the "soapy water and rinse water" discharged from the machine during the wash cycle. It actually "flows cool water" to the drain as a function of the dry cycle.

This is the way Splendide explains it:

Splendide's ventless Comb-o-matic Laundry Center does not have a vent. It uses condensation to dry. Therefore, it DOES NOT require any outside venting, however, it does require 5 gallons of cold water per hour of dry time.

You can read the rest of the explanation here: http://www.splendide.com/splendide_v...r_ventless.htm

terrymullett · 11-13-2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JRTJH

Both. There is a "condensation collector" built into the dryer that uses cool water to condense the steam in the exhaust and redirect it to the gray tank (both the cool water and the condensation) to keep it from being discharged into the interior of the trailer. That cool water adds a significant amount of "water discharge" over and above the "soapy water and rinse water" discharged from the machine during the wash cycle. It actually "flows cool water" to the drain as a function of the dry cycle.

This is the way Splendide explains it:

Splendide's ventless Comb-o-matic Laundry Center does not have a vent. It uses condensation to dry. Therefore, it DOES NOT require any outside venting, however, it does require 5 gallons of cold water per hour of dry time.

You can read the rest of the explanation here: http://www.splendide.com/splendide_v...r_ventless.htm

Yep, that's the way it works. So ventless doesn't, in our experience, add to the moisture in the air inside the cabin, but it does significantly increase the amount of water used. If you're on full hookups, it's probably not a big deal (plus you didn't have to cut a hole for a vent). If you're running off your fresh tank and have to take your gray water elsewhere, it adds to your water management chore.

Pull Toy · 11-13-2019, 03:35 PM

USED ONLY ONCE

Now for sale? HMMMMMM... makes one wonder?

Good Luck,

tech740 · 11-13-2019, 04:07 PM

Interesting thanks for sharing.

travelin texans · 11-13-2019, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JRTJH

This is the way Splendide explains it:

Splendide's ventless Comb-o-matic Laundry Center does not have a vent. It uses condensation to dry. Therefore, it DOES NOT require any outside venting, however, it does require 5 gallons of cold water per hour of dry time.
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Wow! 5 gallons per hour of dry time!!
Our vented combo took approximately 2.5 hours to wash & dry with about an hour & half+ to dry, so 5 to 7.5 gallons per load of grey water. We fulltimed & the combo only did small loads so DW did a load nearly every day so a 30 gallon grey would fill quickly if anything else drained into it.

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