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10-22-2017, 11:20 AM
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Automatic levelling system
looking for information on this and how to do it or have it done I know it will cost some coin but thats not an issue. I would like to have automatic jacks that lift and level at the press of a button or remote control if anyone can shed some light on that it would be appreciated
what to buy ?
Thank in advance
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10-22-2017, 12:34 PM
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Auto Leveling
Not much info to go on,Brand, Model, etc. Call Lippert (LCI) and talk to them. I think they can retrofit some units. Love my Level Up.
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10-22-2017, 12:46 PM
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Automatic levelling system
Ground control 3.0 for a fifth wheel is roughly $3200.00 USD. I know because we install them. Since your talking about a bumper pull, I would bet it’s still in that price range.
I’m not sure the warranty would be valid on a non “authorized dealer” install.
Cost made me decide not to retrofit my fiver.
If you go to the Lippert website, you can see pretty much everything involved with installation, you can’t purchase direct from them.
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10-22-2017, 02:32 PM
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I checked their site not a whole lot of info just basic I guess will have to inquire more are there any other brands of leveling systems for aftermarket tow trailer applications?
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10-22-2017, 02:53 PM
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is this something I could use? reading this guys comment sounds encouraging
" by: Phillip Grimes06/03/2016
I can not say how great these operate. Not difficult to install at all. Great product. I installed these on a 31' Forrest river travel trailer. Set up time from start to finish is now less than 5 minutes, no sweat or frustration required. I should have done this year's ago. Well worth the investment. 256228"
Ultra-Fab Power Twin II Electric Stabilizer with Dual Motors - 30" Lift - 6,000 lbs
link to product
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10-22-2017, 03:19 PM
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Big guy, those are stabilizers. They don't lift squat. You need to Google auto level and go from there. NOTHING worthwhile in an RV installs that fast other than a twelve pack. Reread Chucksters post.
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10-22-2017, 03:35 PM
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they have 6000 lb capacity
correct me if im missing the point but it says 6,000 lb capacity
please watch the video and let me know if I'm off the mark I really don't know a ton about it that's why I'm asking here
Thanks
the video is
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Originally Posted by notanlines
Big guy, those are stabilizers. They don't lift squat. You need to Google auto level and go from there. NOTHING worthwhile in an RV installs that fast other than a twelve pack. Reread Chucksters post.
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10-22-2017, 03:37 PM
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notanlines mark 45 seconds into the video " stabilize and level your camper"
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10-22-2017, 04:02 PM
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Unless they are a LOT stronger than the 5000# ones I see from the factory, they won’t lift the trailer very much. I wouldn’t want to have to lift one set of tires off the ground using a those jacks to level the coach. I know for a fact that the ground control jacks will lift a coach completely off the ground, we do it for axle services.
In the video they are advertised as “stabilizing” jacks. You still have to “manually” level your trailer so it’s not a “one touch” and done sort of thing.
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10-22-2017, 04:06 PM
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Thanks for the input I will email them and put it to them bluntly and see what their reply is some of the reviews it appears that they are using them for level will report back when I get a reply thanks again
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10-22-2017, 04:08 PM
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on the site they are listed as"
CAMPER JACK/ULTRA-FAB PRODUCTS/LEVELING JACK, STABILIZER JACK/ELECTRIC STABILIZER/6000 LBS/30 INCH LIFT
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10-22-2017, 04:23 PM
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just found this on another site I'm questioning truth in advertising..lol
POWER TWIN II-22 link here
Item 94-0707 | MFR# 39-941707
This RV Electric Leveling Jack introduces the only stabilizer product that lifts, levels and stabilizes all at the same time! The new Ultra Power Twin II adds the capacity to actually lift the trailer with up to 6000 pounds of rugged power. (at near full extension.) Each side can be elevated to a height of 30 inches independently or simultaneously. Plus, having a unique extension brace design, the Ultra Power Twin II is the only stabilizer that stops front-to-back motion and side-to-side motion at the same time! It's truly the ultimate in stabilization technology and it's perfect for any RV!
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10-22-2017, 04:31 PM
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You originally asked about “Automatic” leveling, and the ground control is the only system I’m aware of at this time.
Using the product you have like linked to still requires “manual” leveling. Maybe a little faster than manually cranking down a stab jack, but only you can decide if the expense is worth it.
I’m a cheapskate when it comes to that sort of stuff. I do have a cordless drill to lower my rear stab jacks and the front landing gear is easy Peazy electric.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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10-22-2017, 05:11 PM
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Priori, take a look at the sentence second from the end concerning this magical unit stopping all side to side, front to rear movement. That statement in itself is bogus as a football bat. I might buy into this system being above average as a stabilizer jack. Remember I said might. But front to back is not going to happen with this unit. This is NOT automatic either.
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2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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10-22-2017, 05:21 PM
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As a comparison, the Ground Control system for travel trailers has a capacity of 20,000 pounds. Those jacks will lift a 10000 pound GVW trailer completely off the ground without problems. The stabilizer system is rated at 6000 pounds. There's not any comparison between the two and even with 2 sets ($1300) you're barely more than half the Ground Control rating. The stabilizer system isn't going to lift a 5500 or 6000 pound trailer off the ground. Even if it could, the first time you "bounce inside the trailer" you're going to bend those "angle support bars". I had the manual version of that system on my Holiday Rambler. Every time I tried to level the trailer side to side using the stabilizers, I bent a support bar on one side or the other. I finally gave up using them for anything but keeping the rear of the trailer from bouncing.
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10-22-2017, 06:50 PM
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ok thanks for the input I'm happy to for go the "automatic" for "push button" leveling my trailer is around 4200 unloaded only a little guy so I can see would be running close to the rating for sure
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10-23-2017, 02:24 AM
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Check with these guys,
http://hwhcorp.com/
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