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05-20-2016, 07:30 PM
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Range & Oven Removal - install Toaster Oven
Wife would like the current one-piece range/oven replaced with a cooktop/toaster oven - this would be a better option to the current mediocre oven.
The plan is to remove the one-piece, install the cooktop, board up the oven space, and install the Breville toaster oven where the oven use to be.
Has anyone done this or if anyone has any comments, I'd welcome your input.
What I'll do for some good baking treats ...... Don
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05-20-2016, 07:49 PM
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The only issue I see is the heat from the toaster oven. Your current oven is vented at the rear of the range. The toaster oven is going to generate heat that's going to "collect" under the cook top.
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05-20-2016, 08:08 PM
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Chuckster57 is right. They do not dissipate heat in the same manner. Over the years we have managed to melt/brown/singe/burn any number of things in the proximity of our toaster ovens. Making sure the heat can get out, without making everything under the cooktop mega hot, might be a trick.
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05-20-2016, 08:34 PM
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Thought it was a great idea but worried about the heat, too. I did a search on the question and a solution that people use in their homes is to build a box with all the required clearances, leave the front of the box completely open and just set the Toaster Oven in the box. I'm not sure if the old oven space would meet those requirements or not.
There evidently are some brands of zero clearance toaster ovens.
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05-21-2016, 03:29 AM
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Just as a place to start, this came from the Breville site: "Ensure there is a minimum distance of 4" (10cm) of space on both sides of the appliance." Might turn out to be a problem.
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05-21-2016, 03:30 AM
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The Breiville Smart Oven Plus dimensions are (W) 18½ x (D) 15¾ x (H) 11
There is a caution in the owner's manual stating to maintain 4" on each side and 6" on top (from all walls and flammable materials) during operation.
That means the space where the oven is "built in" or "located under the rangetop" would have to be (W) 18½ +8" = 26½ x (D) 15¾ +4"= 19¾ x (H) 11 +6" =17
That means building a cavity about (W) 27 x (D) 20 x (H) 17 (minimum). Since the oven is 110VAC, you'd only be able to operate it when connected to shore power or a generator. If you can devise a way to meet that space requirement and can accept the electrical limitations, I don't see why it wouldn't work.
I'd be very careful when using it since those space requirements are the "minimum" and depending on the length of time the oven is operating, you may find things get "pretty hot" behind or on top of the oven.
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05-21-2016, 06:32 AM
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Just a thought, have you considered replacing the microwave with a microwave/convection unit? High pointe makes them and I am contemplating the switch. As a baker, I agree the ovens are less than adequate for much more than a pan of biscuits.
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05-22-2016, 07:03 AM
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Convection ovens are great - basically the best of both worlds..
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05-22-2016, 07:41 AM
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Somewhat related...
My son bought me a set for my birthday (I like to cook). A side benefit is that the heavy duty, ceramic lined cookware can be used in the oven (up to 350 degrees). The temp control is amazing, making me toss my crock pots that are either too cold or too hot. I plan to take the PIC Gold version in the toy hauler for outside kitchen cooking use. Sear mode does a quick boil for pasta, BTW.
https://www.nuwavecooktop.com/?ref_v...hSsxoCXZXw_wcB
The oven in the trailer, as limited as it is, does well for garlic bread (the non-toasty, less crunchy version) to go with our pre-prepared spaghetti sauce, so it still has a purpose for which cooks must adapt.
The trailer's kitchen may not be gourmet, but it is camping and much better than an old Coleman stove I still have for contingencies I hope never occur.
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05-22-2016, 10:31 AM
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I love having an oven in my trailer. We use it for a lot of things, including pizza. I have cooked a leg of lamb in it when the temp in the house was high enough that we didn't want to cook inside, and actually made Thanksgiving turkey (a hen turkey split in half) on many occasions. Thanksgiving in the trailer was a regular celebration when the kids were younger.
I know that right now you are probably not contemplating selling your home on wheels, but I know that if I were looking for one, I wouldn't consider one without an oven.
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05-22-2016, 01:26 PM
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Like Murphsmom, we would not own an RV with no oven. We learned that with propane we use an insulating cookie sheet under everything we bake and no burned bottoms. And we also make sure to not use a baking sheet that is too big for the oven. One needs plenty of room for the heat to get around the pan.
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05-22-2016, 07:14 PM
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Thank you everyone for your input.
While we would have the minimum side clearance requirements we decided to leave the range/oven in place and place the toaster oven on the "coffee bar" counter. This would still allow us plenty of counter space since we have a kitchen island plus being on the counter makes baking at eye level. The toaster oven will be secured with 1" nylon web, the same as the coffee maker is currently secured, during travel.
Again, thank you for your input ..... Don
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05-23-2016, 05:18 AM
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It looks like it belongs there... Glad you solved your problem. We have an under the cabinet mounted Black & Decker that has followed us in three trailers. It was a great idea, but no longer made, probably for safety reasons with clearance if not installed correctly. Don't know what we will do when it no longer works. JM2¢, Hank
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05-24-2016, 10:11 PM
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Don, I love your idea of using some nylon web to secure stuff up there. We currently take down and stow the coffee pot under the sink for travel, and I would rather just leave it on the countertop. (You're a braver man than I, though, using a glass coffee pot. We got a thermal carafe version with stainless steel carafe so if it decides to bounce around, we won't have glass everywhere.
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05-25-2016, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
Like Murphsmom, we would not own an RV with no oven. We learned that with propane we use an insulating cookie sheet under everything we bake and no burned bottoms. And we also make sure to not use a baking sheet that is too big for the oven. One needs plenty of room for the heat to get around the pan.
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I use an oven stone and nothing ever gets burnt. Baking, pizza and nearly everything goes on it and I've never had a problem
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