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Old 01-24-2015, 05:53 AM   #21
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My Champion has the same "low noise" profile. I can run it outside the garage, close the garage door and not hear it inside. The API2000 is even quieter than my Champion and even quieter than the Honda. The specs on the API (if they are correct) indicate that it and the Yamaha 2000 are both 51 dB. The Honda and the Champion are both 53 dB. I believe they are all "good choices" for someone who needs a generator for dry camping. Surely they are much better choices than a "contractor generator" for use in "close quarters" like a campground.

As for reliability, it usually costs more to buy a product with a history of reliability (reputation). In the case of Honda/Yamaha generators, about double the price. For someone who full times or who can afford the additional cost, it's an investment. For someone who seldom uses the generator, it's an extra expense. Given the income and budget that many people are forced to live with, I believe a major decision maker is the price of a generator that for some campers, would mean not taking the family vacation and buy a generator or buy a cheaper generator and take the family vacation. For some, that will mean either camping or having a generator. For those people, especially the ones that wouldn't use the generator frequently, an expensive generator is not a "necessity" rather it's a luxury that many simply can't afford.

I'd think that having a Champion, an API, a Boliy or one of the other "less expensive inverter generators with a similar operating profile to the "luxury models" is sufficient.

Not everyone can afford, nor do they need to invest $2000 or more so they can watch TV and run the A/C. If it means a difference in going camping or buying a generator, it becomes a "no brainer" to not invest all the family savings on a piece of equipment that you then can't afford to use.

I think (my opinion) the general message is that Honda/Yamaha make good generators, but they are not the only game in town. For someone who can afford them, "go for it"... For those who can't justify the expense or who simply can't afford the expense, there are alternatives that will work. I don't think there's any reason for people to "put Honda stickers" on their "off brand" generators or "hide them in shame"..... A generator is simply a tool, not everyone has to have "SnapOn" so they can feel pride in their garage.
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Old 01-24-2015, 10:25 AM   #22
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Those Yamaha-engined, Smart Tool gens at Costco saved me $1000 for two of them. They parallel and they have a three year warranty. I can afford Honda's and Yamaha's, but why spend a grand more? It's not like I'm driving a Yugo or flying a Maule instead of a Cessna. Some things are worth spending the money on, but in this case, the AP2000iQ's are justified.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:37 AM   #23
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Another thing to be aware of when considering brands is the availability of service and parts.

I haven't looked into parts availability for a number of years, but I had problems finding parts for my Champion generator when it developed a fuel leak around the gas gauge.
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Old 01-24-2015, 12:54 PM   #24
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Another thing to be aware of when considering brands is the availability of service and parts.

I haven't looked into parts availability for a number of years, but I had problems finding parts for my Champion generator when it developed a fuel leak around the gas gauge.
Any Champion repair center either has the parts for sale to customers or can order them. A complete list of Champion repair centers is listed on the website. There is also a page on the Champion website: http://www.championpowerequipment.co...s-accessories/ where all of the companies that provide parts for Champion products can be located. All of those companies are "linked" to their own website by clicking on the logo at the Champion site.

Amazon.com has a very large inventory of parts for Champion. If you look up the part number from the owner's manual or from the IPB on the Champion website, do a search for that part number on Amazon, you can usually find what you need without any issues. If it's not available on Amazon, you can call the Champion customer support (numbers are listed on the website and they will either give you the location, or in many instances, they will ship the part to you.

Every part I've needed has been available at the local "mom and pop" small engine repair shop. They are a Champion repair center BTW.
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:17 PM   #25
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Any Champion repair center either has the parts for sale to customers or can order them. A complete list of Champion repair centers is listed on the website. There is also a page on the Champion website: http://www.championpowerequipment.co...s-accessories/ where all of the companies that provide parts for Champion products can be located. All of those companies are "linked" to their own website by clicking on the logo at the Champion site.

Amazon.com has a very large inventory of parts for Champion. If you look up the part number from the owner's manual or from the IPB on the Champion website, do a search for that part number on Amazon, you can usually find what you need without any issues. If it's not available on Amazon, you can call the Champion customer support (numbers are listed on the website and they will either give you the location, or in many instances, they will ship the part to you.

Every part I've needed has been available at the local "mom and pop" small engine repair shop. They are a Champion repair center BTW.
It's good to hear that Champion has built out a good parts & service network.

My experience was when they were still fairly new in the U.S. market, which gets back to my point of being aware of the possible downside of buying from the latest company to enter the market.
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:35 AM   #26
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I think what most people missed in my original post is that the Honda 2000's motor is 19cc larger, nearly giving it nearly 20% more power than any of the other competitor's in that class rating. For me that's a good point to note that for the money they are not all equal in performance abilities
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:54 AM   #27
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not sure this was a good comparison of units as these CPE's are in a red cover verses the common one's we see today in the yellow covers, and the fact I'm not certain exactly what the guy plugged in, but if by chance the video is total factual and these CPE's are identical to all others in this wattage, the test is one to consider when making a purchase IMO

http://youtu.be/DSxBj9VCs_U
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