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Old 11-21-2021, 03:35 PM   #1
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New Equal-i-zer Tech Tool

Equal-i-zer has a new tool to read your weight distribution percentage.



Don't think it differs from noting the 3 measurements on paper and adjusting to return at least 1/2 the difference between unhitched and hitched w/o bars, but if you like gadgets and hate rulers, this is your huckleberry.
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Old 11-21-2021, 04:21 PM   #2
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There is more to proper weight distribution setup than just the front wheel well measurement. This toy may be dangerously over simplifying an important process…..just saying
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Old 11-21-2021, 04:54 PM   #3
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There is more to proper weight distribution setup than just the front wheel well measurement. This toy may be dangerously over simplifying an important process…..just saying
Yeah...not promoting it and wouldn't use it, but it's just giving you the same answers to what the Equal-i-zer manual already has you do to determine how much weight you are distributing after you go through the proper installation steps. It just cuts out doing the math yourself.
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Old 12-27-2021, 08:14 PM   #4
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That's just a handy laser measuring tape with some math built in. Nice. Might be a little more accurate than my 25' Stanley but we're close.

Yes, there's more to WD than just the measures - but that's all you get to start out with, so best to get a good idea of your baseline, then tow. Then adjust. Every combo is different. Our F-350 DRW likes 2500 lb s tongue and 4 washers for about 60%. But it took a bunch of tries and settings to figure that out.

The F-150 likes 800 lbs and about 80%. We just tested that with a 1100 mile RT from Texas to NM and back. 18+ MPH head winds part of the way home, 20~25 mph cross wind on I-40 going in last week. Held pretty good IMHO. I hit that setup on the first try LOL.
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Old 12-28-2021, 07:10 AM   #5
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Let’s remember that the purpose of a weight distribution hitch is to load the tow vehicles front axle when hitched, to the same load as when it was unhitched for steering stability. Levelling may be a by product but not the WD’s purpose.
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Old 12-28-2021, 07:39 AM   #6
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Equal-i-zer has a new tool to read your weight distribution percentage.



Don't think it differs from noting the 3 measurements on paper and adjusting to return at least 1/2 the difference between unhitched and hitched w/o bars, but if you like gadgets and hate rulers, this is your huckleberry.
What? No Bluetooth? How do they expect to sell that to the young'uns that can't cipher a ruler without using the "one big line and two little lines" measurements?
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The F-150 is only 160 lbs "light" on the steer axle loaded, the F-350 runs about 450 light. Light, meaning theres still 3620 lbs on the steer. Both pull fine. IMHO you'd have to really load the bars to get to 100%.
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The F-150 is only 160 lbs "light" on the steer axle loaded, the F-350 runs about 450 light. Light, meaning theres still 3620 lbs on the steer. Both pull fine. IMHO you'd have to really load the bars to get to 100%.

The bars may be too light for your loaded trailer if they are “bending” a lot to load your front TV axle back to 100%.
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The F-150 is only 160 lbs "light" on the steer axle loaded, the F-350 runs about 450 light. Light, meaning theres still 3620 lbs on the steer. Both pull fine. IMHO you'd have to really load the bars to get to 100%.
Chances are that you'll "lose traction" by lifting the rear axle of the tow vehicle off the ground before you reach 100% "reloading" on the front tow vehicle axle.

Generally speaking, there's about a 20% transfer, 15% to the front axle and 5% to the trailer axle, so if the trailer tongue weighs 1000 pounds, you'll get 150 pounds transferred to the front axle. To get 100% transfer (1000 pounds to the front axle) you'd have "lifted around 5000 pounds" at the hitch. That would put your rear axle off the ground and render the tow vehicle "immobile"...

Sort of like the early Equalizer hitch commercials:
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Old 12-28-2021, 12:45 PM   #10
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Right. The more you push to the front the more that comes off the tail. Too much off the tail let's the trailer nose walk the tail. The nose of the RV follow the 150s tail pretty close and any "wag" is in the tail of the trailer. The main issue with that thing us that it's 8' wide by 10.5 tall so it's like dragging a big 5500lb piece of plywood down the road. Running about 5 MPG coming home Monday, about 100 miles with a 18+ mph head wind before that faded out. I run that one at 15% tongue to load.

The big 34' has less front sail area at 7.5 tall but more side "fetch" so the 350 travels best with more load on the tail. With 4 tires back there, it tracks well even with semis going by at 80. I've run at 2100 and 2500 lbs tongue and it likes the big number best. That's about 18% loaded weight.

The "bend bars" was fun remark. 10k high used on the 5500 lb RV, 14k hitch on the 34' race trailer. Those bars don't bend.
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