GMC and Chevy diesel buy back

[Northofu1]

Ouch.

https://gmauthority-com.cdn.ampproje...ality-issue%2F

[wiredgeorge]

Found it odd the buy back was so vague. The engines can't be fixed? What will GM do with all those trucks? Back on the market after then retrofit whatever was causing the quality issue? Perhaps steal the computer chips and put in vehicles going out the door?

[Northofu1]

Who knows. Why wouldn't they just replace the engines?

[jasin1]

The trucks are probably worth more for resale after the repairs if they have the sought after features..it’s got to be financially in favor of the manufacturers…first time in history where trucks are worth more a year later then when new…they are buying back for price paid

[Northofu1]

I would be asking for a new truck, or, they can replace the engine and I would push for a loaner.

[Badbart56]

Very strange how so little information is available. I'm wondering if it's emissions related like the VW diesel with a rigged test mode to make better hp and torque numbers. If I was an owner I would be wanting answers. Going so far as to buy back the vehicle seems pretty extreme. Maybe trying to head off a class action and save money and face.

[JRTJH]

There's never been a comprehensive report (at least not one that I can find or read) to fully explain Ford's reflashing of the NOX sensors in their DEF/exhaust system. My truck was included in the list of those with "inproperly monitored exhaust" and back in 2016 Ford wanted to reflash my PCM to update the system. I refused because any sensor failures were not covered under the recall/reflash. That was around the time that VW was under the gun for their emissions ratings. I guessed that Ford felt they were next to be accused, so they were trying to get ahead of the problem. But, I didn't want to risk paying "big bucks" if the system didn't work or if the components failed after "fixing Ford's system"...

Fast forward to now, and Ford has two "Customer Satisfaction Programs" that were just completed on my truck. First is the DEF heater/fluid level indicator and the second is the PCM reflash. The "new program" does include a 1 year warranty on the NOX sensors and labor to replace them if they fail, plus a 1 year warranty extension on the SCR assembly if it needs replacement after the PCM reflash. The program expires sometime in 2024, after which the owner is responsible for all failed parts.

I don't think any of the manufacturers are building vehicles that don't have some kind of "problem that needs to be addressed"... I am surprised to see GM buying back trucks rather than repairing them. There's got to be something more than just a "part replacement" that's driving such an expensive "buyback campaign".....

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by Badbart56

Very strange how so little information is available. I'm wondering if it's emissions related like the VW diesel with a rigged test mode to make better hp and torque numbers. If I was an owner I would be wanting answers. Going so far as to buy back the vehicle seems pretty extreme. Maybe trying to head off a class action and save money and face.

That’s what I thought of originally but it would probably be every diesel truck of a certain generation…possibly some fleet trucks or company special order trucks had def delete or different hp specs that cause it to fall short of emission standards ..particularly in California

[notanlines]

A relatively long, somewhat interesting article from Motorbiscuit:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/gm-buyi...ierra-pickups/

On edit: Incorrect article originally

[Laredo Tugger]

Why is this "recall" being initiated through an article in a publication?
With no record (that I know) of engine "quality issues", this complete vehicle "buyback" offer surfaces?
The lack of information is (as mentioned) concerning.
No firm explanation of what the problem is or which models are affected .

The article did state that after a "buyback" owners may not be able to replace their vehicle with a comparable model (trim and other options) and there may also be a "chip shortage" with the new vehicle.
Not much logic in the whole affair, unless it is a strategy to purchase higher value used trucks at previous sales prices then "fix" them and resale them for a higher price.
I know, sounds "far fetched" but something doesn't
sound right here.
Thanks Jim. I was behind you posting but at least an explanation has surfaced.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by Northofu1

Ouch.

https://gmauthority-com.cdn.ampproje...ality-issue%2F

Originally Posted by notanlines

A relatively long, somewhat interesting article from Motorbiscuit:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/chevy-s...ssive-problem/

The first post is about the "buyback" of the 6.6l V-8 diesel in the HD trucks and the second post is about the 3.0L LT/SUV applications of the V-6 diesel... Two entirely different engines...

At least that's what I see in the second article. Maybe I didn't click on the correct link ???

[notanlines]

Sorry, I posted the incorrect link:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/gm-buyi...ierra-pickups/

[E Rod]

Originally Posted by Northofu1

Ouch.

https://gmauthority-com.cdn.ampproje...ality-issue%2F

Magic word in the buy back is Chip Shortage which means less features on new trucks. They will eventually fix, reflash, replace a module or something small and make a killing on reselling them for a prime price now that the manufacturer has told dealerships to stop price gouging . Something has to be in their favor to buy back that many vehicles without a fight in court...

[Roper46]

My salesperson just told me he got a message from GM on Saturday 4/16/22 that my truck has been sent to the "upfitter shop" for a new Dmax engine. It has been on hold for two weeks for a "hydro lock / no start" issue. My truck was built the week of 01/24/22 and deposit was put on it 11/17/21.

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by Roper46

My salesperson just told me he got a message from GM on Saturday 4/16/22 that my truck has been sent to the "upfitter shop" for a new Dmax engine. It has been on hold for two weeks for a "hydro lock / no start" issue. My truck was built the week of 01/24/22 and deposit was put on it 11/17/21.

Putting an engine in on the assembly line is one thing…for people that install hundreds a week..having them rip out one motor after it’s built and reinstall another one is entirely different.. this is not warranty…you haven’t taken possession of the truck yet….if it were me id ask for an extra year of warranty or a discount or something….I would NOT want to buy a vehicle that has had open heart surgery and still sold as brand new.

I know your anxious for a new truck but id be concerned about them messing up a wiring harness or sensor/ fuel line or not getting something lined up just right.
It’s a big big operation pulling apart something designed to go a couple of hundred thousand miles before it might get removed.

It’s basically. Used truck at this point imo…a new truck started and finished itself on the assembly line except for accessories.

The upfitter shop is for installing snow plows and fog lights etc


If you already own the truck and it’s in your driveway then they are buying them back and you have to start over..why wouldn’t you do the same if they still own it?

I’d cancel the order and start over but that’s just me

[Badbart56]

Originally Posted by Roper46

My salesperson just told me he got a message from GM on Saturday 4/16/22 that my truck has been sent to the "upfitter shop" for a new Dmax engine. It has been on hold for two weeks for a "hydro lock / no start" issue. My truck was built the week of 01/24/22 and deposit was put on it 11/17/21.

That could be caused by faulty/leaking injectors or possibly even head gasket/cracked block issues. Not good either way. Sounds like GM (and GM owners) are in for a tough time. I never have been a fan of the Izuzu engines, especially after my wife's TrailBlazer developed a vibration and eventually lost a cylinder despite making all the corrections suggested by the dealership.

I wonder if we will ever know. They're being awfully hush-hush about it.

[Northofu1]

Glad I have the last year of the 6L gas engine.

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by Badbart56

That could be caused by faulty/leaking injectors or possibly even head gasket/cracked block issues. Not good either way. Sounds like GM (and GM owners) are in for a tough time. I never have been a fan of the Izuzu engines, especially after my wife's TrailBlazer developed a vibration and eventually lost a cylinder despite making all the corrections suggested by the dealership.

I wonder if we will ever know. They're being awfully hush-hush about it.

I’m thinking that a few engines slipped thru the crack from GM’s experimental/military division …titanium valve train components, million mile bearings and wear items..carbon fiber intakes/valve covers ..etc lol

We MUST get them back..anyone that resists ?…well let’s just say don’t be surprised if the black Suburban’s roll up to your house late one night

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Badbart56

That could be caused by faulty/leaking injectors or possibly even head gasket/cracked block issues. Not good either way. Sounds like GM (and GM owners) are in for a tough time. I never have been a fan of the Izuzu engines, especially after my wife's TrailBlazer developed a vibration and eventually lost a cylinder despite making all the corrections suggested by the dealership.

I wonder if we will ever know. They're being awfully hush-hush about it.

What you aren’t satisfied with “An engine quality issue”?

[notanlines]

Originally Posted by jasin1

We MUST get them back..anyone that resists ?…well let’s just say don’t be surprised if the black Suburban’s roll up to your house late one night

Way over weight for a Suburban. THIS is what comes in the night....