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02-02-2022, 02:01 AM
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Gooseneck vs. Pullrite
Hi all,
Our 5th Wheel comes with a mounted Adapter to be hooked up to a gooseball. However, we might land a deal for a diesel dually truck which is equipped with a Pullrite 20K hitch.
Now the question is: Which hitch system should I use?
- Which one is better in terms of usability for hitching/unhitching?
- Are there any differences towing (e.g. with regards to pivot)?
Im aware that with a gooseneck Adapter I have an almost empty truckbed. However, this is not a priority for us since we will have the truck purely to tow our 5th wheel for a 6month roadtrip. Besides this the truck would be only used for daytrips etc.
Also the potentially extra weight of the Pullrite is no big deal since we are way below payload and towing limits (F350 dually).
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02-02-2022, 03:52 AM
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IMO, if your getting a truck with the pullrite already installed and the if the adapter can be removed, I would go that route.
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02-02-2022, 08:30 AM
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I would go with the Pull Rite as well without a doubt. The goose neck (if a real goose neck extension on the pin) puts a lot of extra stress on the front frame of the RV when under way simply due to the forces exerted by that extension. Pull Rite would be the way to go IMO.
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02-02-2022, 10:07 AM
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OK great. This was also my inital gut feeling since its more of a original hitch system for the use case.
Anyone needs a gooseneck Adapter?
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02-02-2022, 10:27 AM
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It depends? If it's the Resses Goosebox I think I'd stick with it! From the reports I've read/heard it's Lippert/Keystone approved, leaves an empty truck bed & prevents the clunking & chucking of a normal 5th wheel hitch.
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02-02-2022, 11:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin texans
It depends? If it's the Resses Goosebox I think I'd stick with it! From the reports I've read/heard it's Lippert/Keystone approved, leaves an empty truck bed & prevents the clunking & chucking of a normal 5th wheel hitch.
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Yes, if it's the Goose Box I would leave it. I thought (assumed) the OP was referencing a standard goose neck adapter (and I'm looking at one out my window).
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02-02-2022, 12:15 PM
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“mounted adapter”. That has me thinking it’s not a goosebox as they replace the entire pin box assembly.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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02-02-2022, 12:19 PM
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Good point!
I actually have no idea whether it’s an adapter or something was replaced. According to the owner it looks like something in the attached picture.
Hope that helps!
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02-02-2022, 12:20 PM
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That’s simply an adapter, not a replacement pin box.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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02-02-2022, 01:20 PM
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Yes, that's an adapter. I would definitely go with the Pull Rite.
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02-02-2022, 01:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alku1
Good point!
I actually have no idea whether it’s an adapter or something was replaced. According to the owner it looks like something in the attached picture.
Hope that helps!
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I would absolutely go with the Pull-Rite. Those adapters change the lateral forces applied to the kingpin. I used one with my old 2006 raptor and it may or may not have contributed to a broken frame.
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02-02-2022, 04:24 PM
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I had a PullRite single point (gooseneck ball) for a couple years. Drove me crazy. It slammed at every stop sign.
I thought it was the MoRyde sliding pinbox but I replaced the rubber brake block and no change.
Bought the GooseBox and troubles solved. Plus, it's a soft ride with the airbag and 2 shock absorbers.
PullRite does have very good customer service. Any questions give them a call.
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02-12-2022, 11:14 AM
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Hey,
So unfortunately we had to decline the deal on the truck, after we have seen the report form the inspection. Our new (potential) truck has a gooseneck hitch/ball installed.
Now, after reading the comments here Im not sure whether we should go with using the adapter and hte gooseneck or actually try and install different 5th wheel specific hitch.
How bad is the additional strain on the RV frame?
Are there any disadavantages using the adapter towing / hitching / general usability wise? Or some advantages besides to not have to buy a aseparate 5th wheel hitch?
Thanks in advance!
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02-12-2022, 11:35 AM
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IMO, since there isnt any frame warranty to worry about, I would just use the adapter thats on the trailer.
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Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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02-12-2022, 11:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alku1
Hey,
So unfortunately we had to decline the deal on the truck, after we have seen the report form the inspection. Our new (potential) truck has a gooseneck hitch/ball installed.
Now, after reading the comments here Im not sure whether we should go with using the adapter and hte gooseneck or actually try and install different 5th wheel specific hitch.
How bad is the additional strain on the RV frame?
Are there any disadavantages using the adapter towing / hitching / general usability wise? Or some advantages besides to not have to buy a aseparate 5th wheel hitch?
Thanks in advance!
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I don't know of any "advantage" of using a gooseneck adapter on a 5th wheel. The amount of additional stress they present is an unknown I guess but simply looking at the mount tells you it is going to put additional, unwanted stress on the 5th frame. Personally I would not buy one and if my trailer had one I would dispose of it - no upside to it except that it will drop on the goose ball.
The downside of eliminating the gooseneck adapter is cost. You can use the ball in the bed and eliminate the adapter by installing a hitch that fastens to the ball, Andersen etc.
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02-12-2022, 06:59 PM
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I think some of us, me included, were confused about the "adapter" vs. a Reese Goosebox. The Goosebox is not an adapter, it is a complete pinbox.
I would not use an adapter, but definitely would use a Reese Goosebox.
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02-12-2022, 07:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gearhead
I think some of us, me included, were confused about the "adapter" vs. a Reese Goosebox. The Goosebox is not an adapter, it is a complete pinbox.
I would not use an adapter, but definitely would use a Reese Goosebox.
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In my previous post I did not mention the Goosebox but that is a good alternative to anything else. Whatever I chose it wouldn't be a goose neck adapter.
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02-17-2022, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gearhead
I think some of us, me included, were confused about the "adapter" vs. a Reese Goosebox. The Goosebox is not an adapter, it is a complete pinbox.
I would not use an adapter, but definitely would use a Reese Goosebox.
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While I still like my traditional 5th wheel hitch for ease of connection, and I don't need to raise the 5er an additional 5" to 6" when connecting or disconnecting. My youngest daughter, seems to have hooking up her two GN horse trailers down pat, usually lined up perfectly the first try.
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