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Old 03-16-2020, 03:27 PM   #1
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Old 03-16-2020, 04:22 PM   #2
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Congrats! I went back an forth between the 373 and the raptor 356. Ended up with the raptor but this was a great layout also. Have you had it out yet. Any major issues?
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Old 03-16-2020, 04:51 PM   #3
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We looked at that one also. Just brought it home last Friday so havenít taken it out yet. First trip planned end of month
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:44 PM   #4
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:40 AM   #5
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Nice rig but that camper has overloaded your srw Ford truck .
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Old 03-25-2020, 07:29 AM   #6
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Nice rig but that camper has overloaded your srw Ford truck .
According to the OP's profile, he has a 2014 RAM 2500. If that's accurate, then Ford, RAM or GM, he's "overloaded" with any 2500 truck.
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According to the OP's profile, he has a 2014 RAM 2500. If that's accurate, then Ford, RAM or GM, he's "overloaded" with any 2500 truck.
"But the salesman said I'd never know it was back there!".........
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"But the salesman said I'd never know it was back there!".........
Or but, but it pulled just fine!!!!!
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Old 03-25-2020, 08:45 AM   #9
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Over the payload yes but under axle weights, under GCWR (barely). Iíve done enough research and am comfortable with what Iíve got. To each their own...

Happy camping to everyone!
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Over the payload yes but under axle weights, under GCWR (barely). Iíve done enough research and am comfortable with what Iíve got. To each their own...

Happy camping to everyone!
Thatís big deal being under the GAWR my 1 ton sticker is 7100 stamped driver door jam and with the garage over loaded and full of water, 96 gal fuel. I come in at 6880 lbs 220 lbs under my tires and axels . Cat weigh
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Thatís big deal being under the GAWR my 1 ton sticker is 7100 stamped driver door jam and with the garage over loaded and full of water, 96 gal fuel. I come in at 6880 lbs 220 lbs under my tires and axels . Cat weigh

Mine is 6500 RAWR, I never haul water and minimal fuel as we donít boondock. I know airbags do not increase weight ratings but it sure does help balance it out. Iíve been playing with the CAT scales and I was amazed at how much weight moves off the front axle before airbags. With my 36í bumper pull 400-500 lbs came off the front with no air in bags and was absorbed in the rear. They were a nice addition to the truck
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Mine is 6500 RAWR, I never haul water and minimal fuel as we donít boondock. I know airbags do not increase weight ratings but it sure does help balance it out. Iíve been playing with the CAT scales and I was amazed at how much weight moves off the front axle before airbags. With my 36í bumper pull 400-500 lbs came off the front with no air in bags and was absorbed in the rear. They were a nice addition to the truck
My squat as it is now, empty, is about 2.5" which brings the truck pretty much level. I though about air bags but in my case not sure if 1.5-2K is worth an inch. No lightness to the front end but the scales say I only lost 20 pounds. Just curious what kind of weight did you have in the garage and how much did it change pin weight? My last toy hauler was a Raptor 300MP which is lighter and I had a 12 Ram dually for it so I didn't give weights a second thought. I wanted to stay SRW and under 40' and dual axle trailer thus the 356. I saw a recent posting that said garage loads reduced pin by about 50% of the garage weight. I'd be curious if that's a generally agreed upon figure. My garage is going to be a garage so I'm not worried about making it a living space and having to "put tools away". They will be away. Heavy stuff back there. Thought about and will explore putting some e-track channels on the side wall down low to secure some of those tools, compressor, grill, etc.

I was planning a couple of shakedown cruises sort of locally but all the military and COE parks are closed for who knows how long. So looks like I'll have plenty of time to think this out.

Good luck and happy trails with the Fuzion.
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My squat as it is now, empty, is about 2.5" which brings the truck pretty much level. I though about air bags but in my case not sure if 1.5-2K is worth an inch. No lightness to the front end but the scales say I only lost 20 pounds. Just curious what kind of weight did you have in the garage and how much did it change pin weight? My last toy hauler was a Raptor 300MP which is lighter and I had a 12 Ram dually for it so I didn't give weights a second thought. I wanted to stay SRW and under 40' and dual axle trailer thus the 356. I saw a recent posting that said garage loads reduced pin by about 50% of the garage weight. I'd be curious if that's a generally agreed upon figure. My garage is going to be a garage so I'm not worried about making it a living space and having to "put tools away". They will be away. Heavy stuff back there. Thought about and will explore putting some e-track channels on the side wall down low to secure some of those tools, compressor, grill, etc.

I was planning a couple of shakedown cruises sort of locally but all the military and COE parks are closed for who knows how long. So looks like I'll have plenty of time to think this out.

Good luck and happy trails with the Fuzion.

Iím still fine tuning the garage and such. If I understand you I wouldnít pay 1500-2000 for the bags. I opted for the Firestoneís and put on my self, less than $400. With just 5-10 psi daily driving is much softer. Iíll continue to post back after a few trips to the scale.
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Iím still fine tuning the garage and such. If I understand you I wouldnít pay 1500-2000 for the bags. I opted for the Firestoneís and put on my self, less than $400. With just 5-10 psi daily driving is much softer. Iíll continue to post back after a few trips to the scale.
Looking forward to how those number work out. The $$$ was with a pump and separate side controls, Airlift. That is one problem with a 3500, it does ride rougher but that's what happens with a truck. I'd feel funny with an Escalade ride.
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Personally I don’t think about payload hooked up because it’s to much work unloading toys. I don’t think there is accurate way to get pin weight . When I drive over the scales and I come in under 7100 I know I didn’t exceed the 3600 pay load. I was looking at yellow sheets tonight the closest I could figure with different toys in the garage was 10 % off the hitch for a thousand in the garage. The next trip I’ll be 1300 lbs lighter with out the z force 800 and I weight full of water and 96 gallons of fuel going to the white mt rally AZ. This for my 35 ft camper 10 ft garage . The impact is still capable of 16.500 GVW.
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Personally I donít think about payload hooked up because itís to much work unloading toys. I donít think there is accurate way to get pin weight . When I drive over the scales and I come in under 7100 I know I didnít exceed the 3600 pay load. I was looking at yellow sheets tonight the closest I could figure with different toys in the garage was 10 % off the hitch for a thousand in the garage. The next trip Iíll be 1300 lbs lighter with out the z force 800 and I weight full of water and 96 gallons of fuel going to the white mt rally AZ. This for my 35 ft camper 10 ft garage . The impact is still capable of 16.500 GVW.
Accuracy is dependent on effort. I spent a career, 45 years, flying helicopters and weight and balance was a big deal. Not so much now but old habits die hard. I know exactly, well within a few pounds, my pin weight because I weighed the truck alone with full fuel, hitch installed and when I weighed the trailer I made sure the truck was in the same configuration. The difference between the 2 truck rear axle weights is the pin weight. Course that was an empty trailer fresh off the lot with unfortunately an unknown amount of water on board. I can do guesstimates of weight transfer based on where something is loaded but my plan is for the first trip out when loaded with the bike and tools to weigh again. I'll also make sure the truck is still in the same configuration.
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You could get a tongue scale and know exactly how much pin weight. I have 2 in my tool box 0-2000 for TTís and 0-5000 for fivers.
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Personally I donít think about payload hooked up because itís to much work unloading toys. I donít think there is accurate way to get pin weight . When I drive over the scales and I come in under 7100 I know I didnít exceed the 3600 pay load. I was looking at yellow sheets tonight the closest I could figure with different toys in the garage was 10 % off the hitch for a thousand in the garage. The next trip Iíll be 1300 lbs lighter with out the z force 800 and I weight full of water and 96 gallons of fuel going to the white mt rally AZ. This for my 35 ft camper 10 ft garage . The impact is still capable of 16.500 GVW.
I agree with Chunker, one can absolutely get an accurate pin weight. you need to scale twice one with the 5er connected and one with the TV only. Total axle weight loaded less total axle weight unloaded will give pin weight, add that to the trailer axle weight and you have total trailer weight.
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Old 03-29-2020, 06:22 PM   #19
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I pull my Fuzion 401 with a Chevy Duramax 2500 without any problems. Nobody will ever convince me that this truck canít handle it.
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I pull my Fuzion 401 with a Chevy Duramax 2500 without any problems. Nobody will ever convince me that this truck canít handle it.
I pulled my heavy impact with 13 2500 duramax but I took the cheeses 20 inch tires and went with 18s with index weigh of 3500 lbs and bags . I miss my old 2500 it did excellent job stopping impact fusion GVW is 16500lbs
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