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Old 11-24-2012, 11:50 AM   #1
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F150 w/eco-boost dual turbo's??

Anybody on the forum own one of the new F150 trucks and tow a TT
with it?

My TT loaded is about 7700 lbs and I'm just wondering if I can down
size from my F350 diesel to something a bit smaller.

Open to comments and opinions.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:06 PM   #2
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I would say the F150 EcoBoost could do just fine with that rig. You might drive one first to see if you like the way it feels, but for that load with Max tow and Max payload should work just fine.
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Old 11-24-2012, 12:30 PM   #3
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Towing vehicle

I have a 2012 ford F150 with the Eco boost. I pulled my Laredo 303TG with it. It was fine so far. I also have a Toyota Tundra with the 5.7 engine. Did not notice a huge difference so far between the towing goes. mileage is about the same with both while towing. About between 9.5 and 10 miles to the gallon. However don't believe the hype about 20 something miles to the gallon that Ford says u will get. Best so far is 19 on the highway is more like it. If Toyota had a Eco boost I would rather have bought another Toyota tundra. Best truck I have ever owned so far.
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Old 11-24-2012, 01:18 PM   #4
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I appreciate what you guys have posted so far.

I guess I should add that we are moving to the Denver CO area in
mid 2013 so will be pulling the TT on more hills that I do here in SOCAL.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:16 PM   #5
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You would have no problem towing your trailer with a new F150 Ecoboost. My trailer is 7500lbs loaded and my truck tows it without breaking a sweat averaging 10.6mpg.. Go take one for a test drive and i promise you wont be disappointed!!
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:00 AM   #6
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I too have the Ecoboost. Tow a Hornet 28RLS. Weight over 7000 lbs. Coming back home last year from Florida I was averaging about 9 mpg on the flats. Going through the mountains of West Virginia I dropped to 7 mpg. but I had all the power I needed for the hills. I was able to maintain a speed of 60 and passed the 18 wheelers with no problem.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:03 AM   #7
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I also have an Ecoboost and have a Laredo 240MK. Took it out on the maiden voyage through Arkansas round trip was a little over 1500 miles and averaged 9.5 mpg. I would definitely go take a test drive!
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:39 AM   #8
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I am towing a 29RES Cougar XLite and fully loaded weighing 10,000. I have a Toyota Basic Work Package truck with the 5.7 engine and have towed 8,000 miles so far and have averaged 10 to 12 miles per gallon towing usually at 60mph. The truck listed for 28,900 so if you can find an F150 for that amount I would go for it, but for the money the Toyota does a heck of a job
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Old 12-01-2012, 04:45 PM   #9
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Keep the diesel. There are hills in CO that make the grapevine look like a mole hill and there are many more hills in general than in most of the country.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:29 PM   #10
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Towing

I'm less concerned with the EcoBoost getting it going, and more concerned with it's brake package slowing it down, and handling the hills.

CaptBob is a BRAVE sole! Even in Ford testing, all the test were either uphill, or on a circle track. It's the downhills and the uneven roads that twist up these 1/2 trucks when the TT weight starts throwing you.

But, again, it all depends on driver, WD Hitch, Tires, brakes, bushings.... If you can feel, see, and hear well; you are confident, and you KNOW your truck, and your upgrades, then.... I'm sure it's adequate.

For the money; I don't see where your going to benefit; unless you currently drive your F350 alot.

4mpg (improvement) at 10K miles a year is only about $1000/yr in gas. So, factor that I'd say.
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Old 01-21-2013, 03:05 AM   #11
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I have a 2012 F150 XLT S/Crew Ecoboost, 6.5ft bed, HD payload & tow package pulling a Outback 301BQ. As configured the payload capacity is 2,200 lbs. Great tow vehicle and commuter vehicle. Towing avg 9-9.5 mpg. I would also recommend getting the back up camera & sensors and tailgate step
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:56 AM   #12
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Why go from a more than adequate truck to a marginal one? Sure, lots of folks tow big trailers with smaller trucks. But can they stop? Also, think about the wear and tear aspect. I would rather have too much truck.

As already mentioned, those hills in CO are really mountains!

Good luck and travel safe!
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:45 AM   #13
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After reading some of these other posts I have to wonder why others are getting better mpg than I am. Just hauled my camper with a wt of 6800 lbs loaded from Pennsylvania to Florida this weekend. I got as low 5.4 mpg and as high as 8.2 with an over all average for 1100 mile trip at 7.4 mpg. I tow at a speed of 65 max. I have noticed and mentioned to the dealer a drop in mpg on my truck since I bought it in 2011. They say they find nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:43 AM   #14
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The F-150 Ecoboost will do fine with that load. The advantage of the EB over NA motors is the ability to deliver the power at a much lower RPM and not loose power at altitude similar to diesel motors. Definitely get the max towing and max payload packages.
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Fuel Octane Rating maybe??

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After reading some of these other posts I have to wonder why others are getting better mpg than I am. Just hauled my camper with a wt of 6800 lbs loaded from Pennsylvania to Florida this weekend. I got as low 5.4 mpg and as high as 8.2 with an over all average for 1100 mile trip at 7.4 mpg. I tow at a speed of 65 max. I have noticed and mentioned to the dealer a drop in mpg on my truck since I bought it in 2011. They say they find nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas would be appreciated.
I can tell you this, not technically knowing if it applies to the EcoBoost. My 2012 Mustang 5.0 (Coyote) REQUIRES 87 Octane fuel. Running anything higher kills fuel economy, and I'm told will erode valves and injectors due to pre-detonation. Does this apply to the EcoBoost?
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:20 AM   #16
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Interesting Facts about MPG

This post has really opened my eyes to the realities of the EcoBoost fuel economy, which at one time I had hoped would appear in an Expedition.

My Vortec 6.0L 2009 Suburban 2500 4x4 will average 15MPG on long trips, unloaded, and 9MPG towing. I've seen 8MPG on a short tow over significant mountainous terrain; but never lower.

Here's the thing though, I'm heavy compared to what some of you are reporting. My 303TG TT is typically 8200# every time I tow it; and I'm carrying 600lbs of people (6 total passengers) whenever I go. I even bet with my Full tank of gas , and my additional luggage, I'm hauling 1000#, before I ever hitch the trailer, for a total payload of around 1900#, for a TV with a MAX payload capacity of 2273#.

Apply this logic to the EcoBoost XLT SuperCrew with "MAX Towing" package whose payload capacity is 2290# (KingRanch is 1900#, Platimum Edition is only 1840#, & HarleyDavidson is only 1300#)

IF, and I mean IF, you are running an EcoBoost XLT SuperCrew with Max Towing package, and certainly have less load in your truck, than I have in my 9 passenger SUV, and your RV is lighter than mine, your Total Cost of Ownership is pretty high for 7.5MPG towing. I'm not convinced you can make that up unloaded, just my 2 cents for those currently considering trading into an EcoBoost.

Plus, as mentioned, it REALLY depends on your "Trim" package what "Max Towing Package" really means, plus how many occupants you will have in the vehicle in determining how safe your 1/2-ton will be for your setup.
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This post has really opened my eyes to the realities of the EcoBoost fuel economy, which at one time I had hoped would appear in an Expedition.

My Vortec 6.0L 2009 Suburban 2500 4x4 will average 15MPG on long trips, unloaded, and 9MPG towing. I've seen 8MPG on a short tow over significant mountainous terrain; but never lower.

Here's the thing though, I'm heavy compared to what some of you are reporting. My 303TG TT is typically 8200# every time I tow it; and I'm carrying 600lbs of people (6 total passengers) whenever I go. I even bet with my Full tank of gas , and my additional luggage, I'm hauling 1000#, before I ever hitch the trailer, for a total payload of around 1900#, for a TV with a MAX payload capacity of 2273#.

Apply this logic to the EcoBoost XLT SuperCrew with "MAX Towing" package whose payload capacity is 2290# (KingRanch is 1900#, Platimum Edition is only 1840#, & HarleyDavidson is only 1300#)

IF, and I mean IF, you are running an EcoBoost XLT SuperCrew with Max Towing package, and certainly have less load in your truck, than I have in my 9 passenger SUV, and your RV is lighter than mine, your Total Cost of Ownership is pretty high for 7.5MPG towing. I'm not convinced you can make that up unloaded, just my 2 cents for those currently considering trading into an EcoBoost.

Plus, as mentioned, it REALLY depends on your "Trim" package what "Max Towing Package" really means, plus how many occupants you will have in the vehicle in determining how safe your 1/2-ton will be for your setup.
The Max "Payload" package will push payload to close to 3k and that is what we like to recommend to those considering this. What is being missed in some of these arguments about fuel economy is the incredible amount of power being produced in such a small package. The 3.5L EB produces numbers rivaling my 6.8L V-10 which never sees more than 15 mpg downhill on the highway and the EB can deliver that power at lower RPM's than my big boy motor. When towing, the numbers will be about the same for both motors due to wind resistance of that brick behind it but unloaded it will pass me when I am refueling and keep going. You cannot make power without burning fuel. Ford claims 22 mpg I think with EB and in the lightest configuration and can probably do it. I will never get more than 14 with all highway driving.
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Old 01-22-2013, 02:55 PM   #18
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Truth about Payload.

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The Max "Payload" package will push payload to close to 3k .....
I can't find evidence to support this claim, unless considering a 2WD single cab, and most RV owners in this post have extended or crew with 4WD.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/07...-capacity.html

Max Towing/Payload packages, still takes into consideration total ULVW of the vehicle itself, including cab configuration, options, and add-ons.

My intension is to draw to the conversation, the facts beyond the marketing that pertain to the actual vehicle configuration.
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Old 01-22-2013, 04:53 PM   #19
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This is spec'd with a Crew Cab XLT trim and the HD payload Pkg (8200 GVWR) which puts the payload at 2643 lbs. In a supercab configuration it will push up several hundred pounds, close to 3k. There are plenty of these out there pulling TT's all over the country.

Weight Information for F-150 crew cab with HD payload Pkg and 3.5L EB

Trim Curb Weight

5554.00 lbs

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front

3750 lbs

Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear

4800 lbs

Curb Weight - Front

3150 lbs

Curb Weight - Rear

2404 lbs

Reserve Axle Capacity - Front

600.00 lbs

Reserve Axle Capacity - Rear

2393.00 lbs

As Spec'd Curb Weight

5557.00 lbs

As Spec'd Payload

2643.00 lbs

Maximum Payload Capacity

2646.00 lbs


Gross Axle Weight Rating

8550.00 lbs

Curb Weight

5554.00 lbs

Reserve Axle Capacity

2993.00 lbs

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

8200.00 lbs
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Old 01-22-2013, 06:44 PM   #20
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Several friends of mine have the ecco`s in super and crew and love them .they claim high teens and low 20`s mpg not towing. One friend has a 27ft outback towing it with a supercab with max tow and gets 15`s towing in western pa..not to bad.but he did say that 65mph and faster did kill the fuel mileage fast over 65 towing or not towing.all of them tell me the hp this truck makes is just unbelieveable.
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