Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Tech Forums > Keystone Questions
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 02-29-2016, 05:50 PM   #1
silverbullet18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Villa Rica GA
Posts: 105
De-Winterizing

I have question. Do most of you flush the anti freeze out by filling the fresh water tank with water or do you use the city water connection. I used the city water in my last TT but was wondering if that is the way to do it in my new Bullet. Looking at first voyage this weekend.
__________________

Thomas and Becky
2016 Bullet 269RLS
2010 GMC Sierra 5.3
silverbullet18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2016, 06:06 PM   #2
JRTJH
Site Team
 
JRTJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 26,997
I suppose if there are a million answers, you'll get a million differences. That said, if you think about sanitizing the system, you can't get chlorine into the city water supply, so eventually, you'll need to add Clorox to the fresh water tank, pump it into the plumbing lines and let it sit for a period of time.

For me, it's easier to just fill the fresh water tank, add Clorox and turn on the pump to flush the plumbing lines, then once they "run clear" shut off the pump, refill the FWT completely and let the system sit overnight, then turn on the pump, flush the lines again, drain the FWT, refill with fresh water and flush the lines a third time. If there's any "after-taste" add a cup of baking soda to the FWT, flush the lines again, then rinse with fresh water from the city water supply.

Don't forget to uncap the low point drains so they flush as well.
__________________
John



2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
JRTJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2016, 06:32 PM   #3
SLIMSHADIE
Senior Member
 
SLIMSHADIE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: IL
Posts: 352
I do exactly like John said.
But first I catch the antifreeze out of the low point drains,with faucets open. Some antifreeze will kill grass, might as well re-use it then for traps and toilet for next year.
__________________
2010 Kestone Laredo 291TG
2006 Dodge Megacab CTD
SLIMSHADIE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2016, 02:20 AM   #4
silverbullet18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Villa Rica GA
Posts: 105
So if I wanted to take a quick weekend trip this weekend and dont really have time to sanitize is it ok to just drain low points flush lines with city water and sanitize later. I normally dont use fresh water tank.
__________________

Thomas and Becky
2016 Bullet 269RLS
2010 GMC Sierra 5.3
silverbullet18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2016, 04:32 AM   #5
old timer
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Livermore Ca.
Posts: 138
Sure that would be fine. The antifreeze is ok to drink just not sure I would take a hit off the bottle though. LOL
As for what I did I hooked up the city water got a empty jug and when I turned on the water it just flushed out the antifreeze back into the bottle for next year. I just watched for the color to change and stopped collecting it and let the rest go down the drain.
__________________
2003 Keystone Montana 3280 RL just sleeps 2 lol
2015 Ford F250 4X4 short bed super cab.
https://www.visitedstatesmap.com/imag...TNTXWVWYsm.jpg
old timer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2016, 11:29 AM   #6
nellie1289
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Portland OR
Posts: 639
so mine is winterized using the air method. no antifreeze in the lines just the pee traps. Would is still put some Clorox in the tank or can I just fill it up and go? last time I used the rv was in Late November.
__________________
2014 Ram 3500 Cummins, Limited, Longbed, CC. Every option but the Aisin. Airbags.
The Toy Trifecta:
2021 Keystone Montana 3854BR all options +Onan
2021 Malibu 23 LSV
2017 Yamaha YXZ1000R SS SE
2019 Can AM Maverick X3 Turbo XRS
nellie1289 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2016, 12:40 PM   #7
JRTJH
Site Team
 
JRTJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 26,997
Most compressors aren't "sterile" so whatever may be in the air that's pumped into the compressor is what's in the air that's blown into the RV plumbing lines. Whether there's anything other than a bit of "grit or grime" from the compressor is anybody's guess. While the plumbing is nowhere near as sterile as a surgical suite, I like to at least begin with an "honest attempt" at making sure my water system is clean. So, for me, I'd fill the lines with something that would help "kill anything that's bad" (Clorox solution) and then go from there.

Yes, I do understand there's very little probability of a pathogen infestation in the plumbing lines and when I was a kid I drank out of the garden hose (still do) but there's no reason to risk mold in the water heater or in a faucet if it only takes a couple of minutes to be sure it's clean.... Think of the mold growing in the sipper cups that has been in the news recently.....
__________________
John



2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
JRTJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2016, 06:04 PM   #8
Barbell
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Arizona
Posts: 375
We carry a compressor that is only used to air truck or trailer tires and to winterize. What goes in the compressor is what comes out so I really don't think we are contaminating the fresh water system with the compressor by using it to winterize. In addition, other than pouring Clorox through a funnel attached to the city water inlet, there is no way to put it into the system that I am aware of. Also, we don't use the fresh water tank other than to flush the stool or to water the dogs when we are traveling as we do not dry camp. While I am sure others have good reason to put antifreeze into their system when they winterize (because they live up North), we don't.
Barbell is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2016, 02:24 PM   #9
Tbos
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Solomons
Posts: 3,874
I use the Air method but still sanitize the lines and tank with fresh water and bleach before use. If I were to do a quick trip I might just use bottled water to drink if needed.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
__________________
Tom
2019 Alpine 3651RL
2016 F350 CC DRW
Tbos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2016, 08:26 PM   #10
Lawdog
Member
 
Lawdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Montana
Posts: 41
I'm doing the same thing... started de-winterizing tonight and am about to sanitize.

My question was how do you get the bleach solution into the fresh water tank?!? My old camper had the standard water fill hole, for lack of a better term. But, the new Cougar has a single hose connect for city water and filling the tank. The issue is the little check valve inside the water connect. I did of course remove the screen, but I keep spilling water down the side as I try to put a funnel in there to depress the little valve.

I finally figured it out: I removed the vent screen to the left of the water inlet and place a funnel into there, poured in the bleach solution and then give it several pitchers of clean water to avoid leaving bleach on that plastic line. Problem solved. First trip this weekend...
__________________


RAM 3500 Cummins HO
2016 Cougar X-Lite 28RDB
Kawasaki Teryx 4 LE
Lawdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-03-2016, 05:59 AM   #11
cant_remember_ID
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lawdog View Post
I'm doing the same thing... started de-winterizing tonight and am about to sanitize.

My question was how do you get the bleach solution into the fresh water tank?!? My old camper had the standard water fill hole, for lack of a better term. But, the new Cougar has a single hose connect for city water and filling the tank. The issue is the little check valve inside the water connect. I did of course remove the screen, but I keep spilling water down the side as I try to put a funnel in there to depress the little valve.

I finally figured it out: I removed the vent screen to the left of the water inlet and place a funnel into there, poured in the bleach solution and then give it several pitchers of clean water to avoid leaving bleach on that plastic line. Problem solved. First trip this weekend...
Another option would be to pour the bleach into an empty hose before hooking it to the coach. When you turn your water on, that bleach will flow to the fresh water tank. This method also works to sanitize your fresh water hose.
cant_remember_ID is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2016, 09:17 AM   #12
Lawdog
Member
 
Lawdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Montana
Posts: 41
That is a very good suggestion.
__________________


RAM 3500 Cummins HO
2016 Cougar X-Lite 28RDB
Kawasaki Teryx 4 LE
Lawdog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2016, 01:37 PM   #13
squeak93
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Webb City, MO
Posts: 37
We de-winterized last night and are heading out on our first trip of the year this evening!
__________________
2015 Ram 2500 Cummins 4x4
2011 Cougar 322QBS
squeak93 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2016, 02:15 PM   #14
14george
Senior Member
 
14george's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 1,271
That's how I did mine what cant rember id said
__________________
Navy 1980-1984
14george is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2016, 08:52 AM   #15
vetorio
Junior Member
 
vetorio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Covington Ky
Posts: 22
De-Winterizing

You could mix a Water and Bleach solution and pump it in like you were
winterizing with antifreeze.
vetorio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 12:49 AM   #16
denverpilot
Senior Member
 
denverpilot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 487
Quote:
Originally Posted by cant_remember_ID View Post
Another option would be to pour the bleach into an empty hose before hooking it to the coach. When you turn your water on, that bleach will flow to the fresh water tank. This method also works to sanitize your fresh water hose.

Just be careful with the eyes and the spray if you have a hose or fitting leak doing that... Chlorine in the eye is not a fun day.
__________________
Pilot for fun, Computer geek for a living, and happy 5er owner who wants more time to go play in the camper!
denverpilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 08:54 AM   #17
Desert185
Senior Member
 
Desert185's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,695
What's the acceptable amount of Clorox for a 60 gallon fresh water tank plus the water heater?
__________________
Desert185 🇺🇸 (Retired Chemtrail vendor)
-Ram 2500 QC, LB, 4x4, Cummins HO/exhaust brake, 6-speed stick.
-Andersen Ultimate 24K 5er Hitch.
-2014 Cougar 326SRX, Maxxis tires w/TPMS, wet bolts, two 6v batts.
-Four Wheel 8' Popup Camper.
Desert185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 12:10 PM   #18
JRTJH
Site Team
 
JRTJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 26,997
Quote:
Originally Posted by Desert185 View Post
What's the acceptable amount of Clorox for a 60 gallon fresh water tank plus the water heater?
Most people will say to use about 1/2 cup per 15 gallons of water, so with a 60 gallon FW tank, that would be about 2 cups, then add 6 gallons for the Water Heater and another 5 or 6 for all the lines and you'd come up with about 2.5 cups for your RV. Pump/pour it into the FW tank, fill the tank with water, use the onboard water pump to fill the water heater, then to draw from the FW tank at each faucet (hot and cold) until you smell the chlorine. Turn off the pump and refill the FW tank to "overflowing" at the vent, then let the RV sit for 12+ hours. I usually let mine sit for at least 24 hours. Flush and you're done. If you still have an "aftersmell" or "aftertaste" you can add a cup of baking soda to the FW tank, pump that through the lines, let it sit for a couple hours, flush and things should be clean with no smell remaining.

Remember that Clorox now sells a "concentrate laundry bleach". The above 1/2 cup is the regular bleach, not the concentrated stuff...
__________________
John



2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
JRTJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 01:53 PM   #19
BOWWOW
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: colorado
Posts: 209
Quote:
Originally Posted by vetorio View Post
You could mix a Water and Bleach solution and pump it in like you were
winterizing with antifreeze.
That is exactly what I do. I put the solution into a gallon jug such as an old antifreeze jug. Then I have an old water hose that I cut the ends off of (about 12-14 inches) one end I use for the solution going in and the other end I use for the WD hookup to drain the solution back into a jug for disposal.
__________________
2007.5 Silverado 3500 HD,DRW, LTZ red, afe II airbox w/ torque tube, transferflow 56 gal replacement tank,
banks speed brake, transgo jr shiftkit, aux trans cooler, b&w companion hitch.

2010 Fuzion FZ 302 has 12ply F-loads, Dexter ez-flex w/ wet bolts, 6 volt Deka GC 15 batteries, 1 gen battery, solarpanels, leds inside, replaced clear textured door glass with tinted, 87 gallons of loc-tite.
Decals removed.
AKA CONFUZION / PORH HONKY.
BOWWOW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2016, 05:48 PM   #20
Desert185
Senior Member
 
Desert185's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Nevada
Posts: 2,695
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH View Post
Most people will say to use about 1/2 cup per 15 gallons of water, so with a 60 gallon FW tank, that would be about 2 cups, then add 6 gallons for the Water Heater and another 5 or 6 for all the lines and you'd come up with about 2.5 cups for your RV. Pump/pour it into the FW tank, fill the tank with water, use the onboard water pump to fill the water heater, then to draw from the FW tank at each faucet (hot and cold) until you smell the chlorine. Turn off the pump and refill the FW tank to "overflowing" at the vent, then let the RV sit for 12+ hours. I usually let mine sit for at least 24 hours. Flush and you're done. If you still have an "aftersmell" or "aftertaste" you can add a cup of baking soda to the FW tank, pump that through the lines, let it sit for a couple hours, flush and things should be clean with no smell remaining.

Remember that Clorox now sells a "concentrate laundry bleach". The above 1/2 cup is the regular bleach, not the concentrated stuff...
Sounds like the plan. Thanks!
__________________
Desert185 🇺🇸 (Retired Chemtrail vendor)
-Ram 2500 QC, LB, 4x4, Cummins HO/exhaust brake, 6-speed stick.
-Andersen Ultimate 24K 5er Hitch.
-2014 Cougar 326SRX, Maxxis tires w/TPMS, wet bolts, two 6v batts.
-Four Wheel 8' Popup Camper.
Desert185 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RV® is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.