So last night, we made the 200 mile drive up to Allentown, PA (almost the entire way in a storm of biblical proportions) to checkout the Sprinter and some Reflections. Went into the dealer today then drove home. While there we also popped in some Outbacks they had in stock. As an aside, Tom Schaeffers RV Super Store in Shoemarkersville, PA has an awesome selection of trailers
So we went into the Reflections first (312bhts and 315rlts). That may have ruined us. They just seemed obviously better put together and things were all around a little (or a lot) nicer. We went into the Sprinter 330kbs and 320mls after, as well as the Outback 340bh and 341rd. After the Reflections, the Sprinters and Outbacks just felt a little cheaper and lower quality. It is hard to quantify but unmistakable.
My main concern with the 312bhts was that the bedroom is (on paper) the same layout as my Hideout which we do not like. What we were relieved and excited to find out, is that there is an awesome amount of space around all 3 sides of the bed and a ludicrous amount of storage space everywhere in the trailer! It was very comfortable and easy to move around the bedroom in the 312. The 315 vs 312 was interesting, the 315 had an amazing bedroom and closet layout - but you pretty much trade that bunkhouse in the 312 for an extra sofa in the living area and the very spacious closet. If the trailer was 3' longer to accommodate the 315 bedroom on the 312 with the bunkhouse - I would not be able to throw money at them quickly enough. For us, needing the bunkhouse space for our daughter trumps an awesome bedroom setup (we can still get a very nice bedroom AND wont have to be exiled there during naps with the pack-n-play in the bunk room now).
SO, we are now looking at our different options for getting a Reflections 312bhts (3+ dealers in a 4 hour radius) and how we will sell our Hideout. I asked them today what they would give us on trade-in and they fed us some BS saying they would have to compare retail value on my Hideout against MSRP of the Reflections. MSRP on the Reflections is $55k, on a non-trade they would sell it for about $42k. They said they could give me $25k for my Hideout against the $55k Reflections meaning it would be a $30k jump. Understanding they need to make money (and already do at the $42k price clearly) - I would think a better price would be $21k-$22k for my Hideout against the $42k Reflections, a $20k jump. It seemed lazy/greedy/sloppy that they want to just pocket an additional $10k since it is a trade-in (they would still make over 10% on the Hideout in my scenario above - on top of whatever they would make on the Reflections). Should I expect all other dealers to pull the same crap? I really hate dealing with sales people and dealerships by the way haha
I have no experience selling something like this privately and have no clue what the demand in our area looks like. How do you even pay for something that big in a secure way without worrying about scams? I know I will get better mileage and value out of all the improvements I have done with a private sell.
Update: So I went back through the emails and amazon orders....I have done about $2900 in upgrades to a $19k trailer in 6 months. Being on this forum is expensive.....lol (several hundred of that is "detachable" things I would include as I would no longer have a need for them such as EMS, mattress, 30A power cords, etc)