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09-21-2020, 07:38 PM
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Did I max out my hitch?
Recently traded my Keystone 5er (13k loaded) for my new Cyclone, which was just weighed at 20.5k. Loaded as we normally camp including a golf cart and my Hayabusa in the garage... 50 gals of gas, but no liquids except for about 30 gals of potable water. Honestly, this should be close to the max we should ever get to.
I currently have been using a Demco 21k hitch, which I love. Looks like I have just 500 lbs to spare to be at the Demco’s max. If I had full waste and potable tanks, I would be just over that 21k! I do notice that the hitch creaks a good bit with this trailer. Never heard that before. Lubed it up and its better, but still creaking.
Should these hitches creak ever? Is this safe? What buffer, if any, do the mfgs use? Hate to waste money on a new larger hitch if I am safe, but dont mind spending money if I have put myself in an unsafe position. Am I making sense?!
If I must upgrade, pretty sure I will move to an air ride hitch. I was toying with buying an air pin box anyway. Whats the recommended brands/models that wont break the bank? I do realize that they aint cheap.
Thanks in advance.
Troy
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09-22-2020, 05:55 AM
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I think I would want a larger safety margin than you currently have.
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09-22-2020, 05:56 AM
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That's closer than I'd want to be..
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09-22-2020, 08:03 AM
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I have to echo the above sentiments - too close for me as well.
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09-22-2020, 08:12 AM
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Yep.
I have an Andersen rated for 24k on a 11.5k 5er. It's a good hitch, but I don't even think I'd use it for your unit at 21k. I'd look at a B&W or PullRite.
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09-23-2020, 07:09 AM
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Kinda what I am thinking too. Any input on an air ride hitch?
Troy
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09-23-2020, 07:38 AM
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Only one I've followed is goosebox, and it's not HD enough for your weight.
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09-23-2020, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Getn off
Kinda what I am thinking too. Any input on an air ride hitch?
Troy
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If you have the puck system I'd look at the BW Companion 25K
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09-23-2020, 09:43 AM
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I had the 2016 Cyclone, and it was 20k without the golf cart. When I towed with the golf cart I know I was over the max because I used the scales. I recommend checking your weight at scale. I have the Curt 24k and I had no problem with the hitch.
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09-23-2020, 12:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffreyhack
I had the 2016 Cyclone, and it was 20k without the golf cart. When I towed with the golf cart I know I was over the max because I used the scales. I recommend checking your weight at scale. I have the Curt 24k and I had no problem with the hitch.
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Travelin ,sourdough flybouy anyone?better get on this.😁 sorry i'll stop.
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09-23-2020, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ribtip
Travelin ,sourdough flybouy anyone?better get on this.😁 sorry i'll stop.
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Poster added a golf cart and thought he might be over, scaled and was. Advised folks his situation and how he knew....and tows with an F450.....made a good point and also followed up that the Curt was no issue. Helpful information, quite the opposite of advising to ignore weight limits.
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09-23-2020, 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Poster added a golf cart and thought he might be over, scaled and was. Advised folks his situation and how he knew....and tows with an F450.....made a good point and also followed up that the Curt was no issue. Helpful information, quite the opposite of advising to ignore weight limits.
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Oh i assumed he meant something else. I guess thats what happens when you assume.
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09-24-2020, 06:01 AM
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Reference the creaking I'd suggest using the nylon disk on the hitch instead of grease. Might help.
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09-24-2020, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chunker
Reference the creaking I'd suggest using the nylon disk on the hitch instead of grease. Might help.
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I have wondered about those, although never used one.
Whelp. Bit the bullet and just ordered a TrailSaver BD5F. After our last venture up 95/26 in SC last week, even the wife thought an air ride is worth a shot...even for the money.
Will let everyone know if its worth the extra dough. Figured an upgraded 25+K hitch was gonna run around $1200. Add an air pin box for another 12... helps to justify. In my lil head anyway!
Troy
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2018 Keystone Limited 3551FWMLS...Gone.
2020 Heartland 4270 Cyclone…Gone
2018 F350 CC 6.7 PSD drw…Gone.
2021 F350 CC 6.7 PSD drw Platinum…Gone
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09-24-2020, 01:13 PM
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That hitch looks like a beast. Good luck Troy.
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09-24-2020, 01:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Getn off
I have wondered about those, although never used one.
Whelp. Bit the bullet and just ordered a TrailSaver BD5F. After our last venture up 95/26 in SC last week, even the wife thought an air ride is worth a shot...even for the money.
Will let everyone know if its worth the extra dough. Figured an upgraded 25+K hitch was gonna run around $1200. Add an air pin box for another 12... helps to justify. In my lil head anyway!
Troy
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You will still need to grease the jaws of the hitch but the disk makes a good lubricating surface between the hitch and king pin. I'd suggest checking with the hitch manufacturer for the diameter and thickness of one. Don't want it so thick that it's hard to tell when they separate when unhitching.
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