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Old 05-01-2020, 05:09 PM   #101
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I would have to agree, although my current F250 does just fine, I am a bit concerned about being over on GVWR, F350 is a nice upgrade, but not enough wiggle room in my mind. That's why I think the F450 DRW is the way to go. From what I've been told, NOTHING compares to pulling a 5er with a dually. My other issue is that it would be my daily driver too.
This makes me think you really don’t know what Ford offers in one tons. There is both an F350 SRW and an F350 DRW.
I believe the current F350 SRW has a GVWR of 12,300#+/- the F350 DRW and F450 both have a GVWR of 14,000# so for the same trim level the more stoutly built F450 weighs more so will have less payload!
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:34 PM   #102
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In Lariat trim,

The current F350 DRW 4x4 with a 14,000 GVW payload is 7210
The current F450 DRW 4x4 with a 14,000 GVW payload is 5900

So yes, the F350 DRW has significantly greater payload.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du...s/f350-lariat/
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:43 PM   #103
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In Lariat trim,

The current F350 DRW 4x4 with a 14,000 GVW payload is 7210
The current F450 DRW 4x4 with a 14,000 GVW payload is 5900

So yes, the F350 DRW has significantly greater payload.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du...s/f350-lariat/
I find it hard to believe that an F350 Lariat DRW weighs less than 7,000#, I know they have aluminum bodies, but that is extremely light for a
DRW.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:50 PM   #104
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In Lariat trim,

The current F350 DRW 4x4 with a 14,000 GVW payload is 7210
The current F450 DRW 4x4 with a 14,000 GVW payload is 5900

So yes, the F350 DRW has significantly greater payload.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du...s/f350-lariat/
John, that Dually with the 7210 payload is a very stripped down model....maybe even a gasser. My 2016 F350 Dually King Ranch Diesel has a 5270 lb payload. The newer ones with Aluminum everything will definitely have a bit more payload, but not 7210 worth.
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Old 05-01-2020, 05:57 PM   #105
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On the RAM site you can put in the VIN and get all the capacity info.
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Old 05-01-2020, 06:23 PM   #106
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On the RAM site you can put in the VIN and get all the capacity info.
That is not 100% accurate, it list my payload about 200# higher than the yellow sticker 5,411#.
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Old 05-01-2020, 07:48 PM   #107
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I find it hard to believe that an F350 Lariat DRW weighs less than 7,000#, I know they have aluminum bodies, but that is extremely light for a
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John, that Dually with the 7210 payload is a very stripped down model....maybe even a gasser. My 2016 F350 Dually King Ranch Diesel has a 5270 lb payload. The newer ones with Aluminum everything will definitely have a bit more payload, but not 7210 worth.
Click on the link, go to the specs on the Ford site, scroll down to payload. The Lariat F350 regular cab 8' bed DRW 4x4 payload is 7210. There is no indication of which engine it is. My guess would be the 6.2L, but that's a guess.

The F450 is also a regular cab 8' bed DRW 4x4.

The crew cab trucks are heavier, so with the same GVW, payload will be less than with the trucks I posted....

The data is directly from the specs sheet for the Lariat trim level, regular cab trucks... https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du...s/f350-lariat/

ADDED: I think I see where the confusion is....

The Ford chart, although it lists "Lariat trim" uses the same "base model specs"..

Those specs list the base curb weight for the regular cab, 7.3L (gas) 4x4 DRW truck at 6713 pounds.

The F350 base regular cab, 6.7l (diesel) 4x4 DRW curb weight is 7427.
The F450 base regular cab, 6.7l (diesel) 4x4 DRW Curb weight is 8012.

So, doing the math at 14,000 GVW, the 350 payload is 6573 and the 450 payload is 5988.

So, the point I was trying to make remains the same, the F350 has a larger payload than the F450 in "comparably equipped base model trucks".. If you start adding equipment, changing up models, trim packages and options, then that "base model data" wouldn't apply to some other comparison..
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Old 05-02-2020, 10:56 AM   #108
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https://www.ford.com/trucks/super-du.../f450-limited/


And here is the specs for 350 and 450.
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My Dually, by itself weighs just under 9400 lbs, but that also includes a crossbed toolbox with stuff in it, a Companion 25K hitch, and a 42 gallon Aux. Tank loaded with diesel fuel.
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My Dually, by itself weighs just under 9400 lbs, but that also includes a crossbed toolbox with stuff in it, a Companion 25K hitch, and a 42 gallon Aux. Tank loaded with diesel fuel.
Is that with you in it or nobody in the truck just the truck?

Our 2016 Ram Laramie DRW with hitch prep and hitch and adapter, DW, me, dog and cross bed tool box scales at 10,000#. It has a listed yellow sticker payload of 5,411#.
This should be a reminder to those that look at "Payload" as what is available for pin weight. So I have used about 26% of available payload before hitching up the 5er.
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Ken, I did call my insurance agent and he said an accident, like discussed, if it happened, would be covered by insurance. This thread remains of the 'tire' or 'which truck is best' threads that go one and on forever.


Common sense and even stupid sense are covered by insurance. But that is why you need to talk to your own insurance agent in your state.
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Is that with you in it or nobody in the truck just the truck?

Our 2016 Ram Laramie DRW with hitch prep and hitch and adapter, DW, me, dog and cross bed tool box scales at 10,000#. It has a listed yellow sticker payload of 5,411#.
This should be a reminder to those that look at "Payload" as what is available for pin weight. So I have used about 26% of available payload before hitching up the 5er.
That includes me in the seat. Add in my wife and OMG....it goes up drastically.......105 lbs.
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