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05-13-2016, 05:57 AM
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Faded Front Cap - Another Story
Like many my brown front cap started to fade badly and I was to far past my warranty for Keystone to help me. Ended up taking it to a body shop and they were able to buff out all the fading and then applied 3 coats of UV blocking clear coat. The original decals are still there, and the clear coat was applied right over the decals after they were cleaned and buffed as well. Very happy with how it looks and I'm hoping it last. Cost was just under $400
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05-13-2016, 08:22 AM
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Looks like new. Thanks for the info.
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05-13-2016, 02:21 PM
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Clear coat
Looks great, hope this lasts, please keep us informed. I have been really wondering about some type of sealing coat. Until then, just keep using the orbital buffer and cleaning wax, definitely a job and a half once or twice a year...... Just got done with this years 'ordeal' last Saturday.....
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05-13-2016, 04:22 PM
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Looks great. Mine is starting to fade just in the upper corner, not bad yet but will need to get it done at some point.
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05-14-2016, 07:54 AM
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wow! Looks great!
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05-14-2016, 12:50 PM
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That looks fantastic well worth the money...
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05-17-2016, 03:26 AM
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Looks great! I have not had this issue yet, or have heard of this happening, but thanks for the info! Looks great and glad there is something you can do for it.
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05-18-2016, 10:31 PM
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Wow. Mine is doing that and this sounds like it's worth a try.
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12-20-2016, 05:25 PM
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I was asked to report back on my front cap at the end of the season. Well it still looks GREAT!! What the auto place did is way better than what I could do with several of the waxes I tried first. They coated the cap with a UV clear coat, so I think I should be good for awhile.
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12-21-2016, 08:29 AM
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Thanks you so very much for replying back. I am doing the same thing myself so the tip to add a clear coat UV protectant is great info. As a note I used Meguiars oxidation removal myself as a test. I ordered it to see if I could take off grey off my brown cap before I hired a shop to repaint. Based on the results so far I may forgo the $2,500 paint job. Based on your May to Dec trial review I most likely will forgo it.
I am done with 1 /2 of the cap oxidation removal. I will then add wax and per you add a UV clear coat ! This is good news and makes me feel better about the wax job lasting more than a few weeks.
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02-28-2017, 08:25 AM
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SummerHammer, did you ever finish your wax and clearcoat? How did it work out for you?
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03-22-2017, 11:47 AM
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Just curious, what product did they use? I'm about to get a new camper, and I'd like to apply it right away.
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03-22-2017, 06:26 PM
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Sorry Greg, I just know it was clear coat, but I have no idea what brand they were using.
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05-03-2017, 04:55 PM
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Hi guys sorry I have been mia. I used meguires heavy oxidation remover and meguires high gloss was. It came back well... I never got around to the clear coat.i say it lasted about a good 3.5 months with no touch up and no clear coat sealer wax. The trailer sat in the repair shop for a month waiting on my turn at a bearing service and then I took it out for 15 days in Florida Alabama and lousiana sunshine and ocean side conditons then it sat another month in outside storage. I need to do it all over again but this time will be easier than the last from what I can tell from trying a section..
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05-04-2017, 04:01 AM
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Question with regards to Clear Coat used and how the decals came out.
First is it possible to find out if they used water based or solvent based clear coat when you had the cap clear coated?
Second how did you decals come out? Was there any running in the printed decals?
Mine became worst this year with every spot that was buffed last year pealing away. I would not recommend using a buffer on any of the cap. You'll just make the situation worst quicker.
I only painted the top band across the top of the camper last fall, but everything below it pealing now. Called Keystone and it seams every decal on the cap is $120 each if available. So was looking to do the same as you. Any information on products and outcome of printed decals would be very helpful.
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05-04-2017, 04:51 AM
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Let me Jump in here, the graphics are printed on a white vinyl using a solvent printer without lamination. The life expectancy is about 4 years before fade occurs. Yes, there are better products out there but low prices always win. A properly printed and laminated graphic on top quality material will last over 10 years. Top coating with a true clear coat (automotive finish) wither water or solvent base will help. Yes a printed graphic can be top coated with a solvent base clear coat.
Cost Factor: For Printed Graphics with No Overhead
What you get $.75 Sq. Ft. or less Top Shelf $4.00 Sq. Ft.
Buffing will erode the top coatings of the graphic and shorten the life.
I have no technical data to support the promise that any hand applied wax or coating will prolong the life of a graphic. Most of the graphic material suppliers suggest not waxing graphics.
There is much info on line, 3-M, MacTac, Arlon, General Formulations, Oracal, Kapco, and more.
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05-15-2017, 06:23 PM
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Update... after sitting all winter I did a full roof and body wash. I noticed my decals (white areas) in two specific spots started turning orange. I was unable to clean it, as the color is below the new gel coat. Best guess is I'm seeing a chemical reaction. It's not a big deal to me where it is, but for some it could be a big deal.
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05-16-2017, 04:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chartrand
Update... after sitting all winter I did a full roof and body wash. I noticed my decals (white areas) in two specific spots started turning orange. I was unable to clean it, as the color is below the new gel coat. Best guess is I'm seeing a chemical reaction. It's not a big deal to me where it is, but for some it could be a big deal.
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02-20-2018, 07:52 PM
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Faded Front Cap - Another Story
Here are a few pictures of what I suspect is a chemical reaction between the decal and the clear coat that was applied over top of them. The cap was sanded, do maybe the decades were scuffed.
It did get progressively worse over the summer from when I originally reported back to the group.
Either way I have an appointment Next week for the cap to be sanded, painted, and clear coated. After it cures, I’ll apply the replacement decals.
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02-20-2018, 09:25 PM
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I have been thinking about the "fading cap" and "decal" fiasco for about five years now... knock on wood mine still look new! However if it comes to painting the cap I would have complimentary "decals" actually painted on then clear coated. There are several RV's that have had this done where we are and they look fantastic! No more decals to worry about. So when the time comes..........
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