High idle kit install - with video!

[Brantel]

Here is a quick video detailing my install of a BD Performance High Idle kit on my 22 F450.

This is not a sponsored video, I am not monetized, I am not a professional. I don’t even ask to like and subscribe!

Enjoy or not!

https://youtu.be/-Xk8prdQPLE

[jasin1]

Originally Posted by Brantel

Here is a quick video detailing my install of a BD Performance High Idle kit on my 22 F450.

This is not a sponsored video, I am not monetized, I am not a professional. I don’t even ask to like and subscribe!

Enjoy or not!

https://youtu.be/-Xk8prdQPLE

Will that void the engine warranty? I’d be afraid to do any engine mods but then again I tend to worry about silly things.

I found out the my Ram has the factory high idle setting built in already…you have a nice looking truck!

[Brantel]

Originally Posted by jasin1

Will that void the engine warranty? I’d be afraid to do any engine mods but then again I tend to worry about silly things.

I found out the my Ram has the factory high idle setting built in already…you have a nice looking truck!

No, it just takes advantage of the provisions provided by Ford to do this very thing.

[rhagfo]

Originally Posted by Brantel

No, it just takes advantage of the provisions provided by Ford to do this very thing.

Wow, even my 2016 Ram 3500 DRW has built in fast idle.

[firestation12]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

Wow, even my 2016 Ram 3500 DRW has built in fast idle.

Very nice, but does your 2016 Ram 3500 DRW have a 10 speed transmission, 475 hp, and 1,075 lbs/ft of torque like the OP’s?

[Brentw]

Originally Posted by firestation12

Very nice, but does your 2016 Ram 3500 DRW have a 10 speed transmission, 475 hp, and 1,075 lbs/ft of torque like the OP’s?

Hahaha, burn

[travelin texans]

Surprised your newer Ford didn't have it built in from the factory, my '13 GMC had a setting to turn it off/on in DIC.

[jfk69]

Back to the OP, beautiful truck, great video, glad it all worked out well. I DO think it should come standard from the factory. With that said, I simply don’t idle long enough to feel the need. Summer or winter, towing the RV, daily driving, it doesn’t matter to me. The emission systems/engine/turbo do not like long idles so I avoid it. I’ll let her idle for a minute or so after a pull before I shut her down, and it rarely takes more than a minute or two to hook or unhook before or after pulling, so idling is minimal.

[JRTJH]

Hopefully, this thread is back on track.

If you "really, REALLY feel the need to make childish comments about "my truck is bigger or better or rusts less"... PLEASE start your own thread so the site team can more easily delete YOUR comments without affecting what started out as a valid informational thread about a truck modification that other members might find interesting.....

If you can't think about what you're posting, maybe it would be better to just not post anything.

I'm going to start deleting posts that at a blatant attempt to put down another member's choices in vehicle manufacture. There's simply no place for that kind of "look at me, mine is bigger, or better, or smarter or yours is not as big, not as good, not as reliable"....

So, STOP IT !!!!!

[chuckster57]

So Im just wondering, What is the advantage of the high idle?

I understand in the winter you dont want "wet stacking" from long idle times, Do you have accessories that require higher RPMS?

[Heavy_Chevy]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

Hopefully, this thread is back on track.

If you "really, REALLY feel the need to make childish comments about "my truck is bigger or better or rusts less"... PLEASE start your own thread so the site team can more easily delete YOUR comments without affecting what started out as a valid informational thread about a truck modification that other members might find interesting.....

If you can't think about what you're posting, maybe it would be better to just not post anything.

I'm going to start deleting posts that at a blatant attempt to put down another member's choices in vehicle manufacture. There's simply no place for that kind of "look at me, mine is bigger, or better, or smarter or yours is not as big, not as good, not as reliable"....

So, STOP IT !!!!!

Get your panties out of a wad, Mr. big internet moderator tough guy. It’s all in good fun. With the exception of one statement, what I said was not an opinion. Facts. But it’s a forum, so if I wanted to share my opinion I CAN.

I’ve had all 3 brands, as my second post eluded to. Have a drink and cool off fella.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by Heavy_Chevy

Get your panties out of a wad, Mr. big internet moderator tough guy. It’s all in good fun. With the exception of one statement, what I said was not an opinion. Facts. But it’s a forum, so if I wanted to share my opinion I CAN.

I’ve had all 3 brands, as my second post eluded to. Have a drink and cool off fella.

My post was NOT a suggestion. It was a NOTICE to cease and desist. If you post once more to "share your opinion" on this topic your post will be deleted and you will receive an infraction. This is not negotiable.

[travelin texans]

Originally Posted by jfk69

Back to the OP, beautiful truck, great video, glad it all worked out well. I DO think it should come standard from the factory. With that said, I simply don’t idle long enough to feel the need. Summer or winter, towing the RV, daily driving, it doesn’t matter to me. The emission systems/engine/turbo do not like long idles so I avoid it. I’ll let her idle for a minute or so after a pull before I shut her down, and it rarely takes more than a minute or two to hook or unhook before or after pulling, so idling is minimal.

I'm the same way, never saw the need for the extended high idle times in my opinion.
Had 2 GMCs with 300k+ miles between them, both daily drivers & I drove just as I did any other vehicle, started it put in gear & go, stop turn off key & lock the door, never any issues other than 1 recall on each truck. Never any electrical gremlins either.
Back before they quieted down the Ford's & Dodge's, now called Rams, seems as we always had the pleasure of getting parked next to one of them, some times one of each on each side, that had to let it "warm up" for about an hour at 6am before they hooked up to leave, the noise & the stink were horrible. Thank you manufacturers for making them quiet & less stinky!!!

[chuckster57]

Originally Posted by travelin texans

I'm the same way, never saw the need for the extended high idle times in my opinion.
Had 2 GMCs with 300k+ miles between them, both daily drivers & I drove just as I did any other vehicle, started it put in gear & go, stop turn off key & lock the door, never any issues other than 1 recall on each truck. Never any electrical gremlins either.
Back before they quieted down the Ford's & Dodge's, now called Rams, seems as we always had the pleasure of getting parked next to one of them, some times one of each on each side, that had to let it "warm up" for about an hour at 6am before they hooked up to leave, the noise & the stink were horrible. Thank you manufacturers for making them quiet & less stinky!!!

My IDI is loud in comparision to the newer ones, I only started it long enough to see the temp gauge start rising and get the transmission fluid started to warm up. and I did idle out out the park, I was taught to never start towing a big load without at least warming things up a bit..We always stopped in the early afternoon and I did let it idle until the Pyrometer was below 350.

[sourdough]

This kind of thread is interesting to me. As one that has never wanted a diesel, at all, for personal use I have begun leaning toward trying one for the heck of it before I kick the bucket. I pretty much know gas engines front, back in and out but know very little about the idiosyncrasies of owning a diesel truck for daily driving, which seems problematic. Although this was about a Ford mod and I will probably buy a Ram, I suspect these same measures are required on all diesel trucks so although it's a different truck it's still interesting and enlightening.

As far as "mine's bigger than yours" etc. - tried to grow out of that many decades ago; we all like what we like for whatever reason so to each his own. DW would puke if I fed her a potted meat sandwich, to me it's as good as a ribeye (when I'm in the mood).

[JRTJH]

I can think of a number of reasons why a high idle would be wanted:

Using a PTO with a winch or a snowplow hydraulic pump or other "front drive accessory" that has a high idle operating requirement.

Faster warmup in cold weather

Doing a DEF regeneration while the vehicle is parked

Cooling down the turbo more efficiently after a hard pull.

Jump starting a stranded vehicle and wanting maximum alternator output from the diesel vehicle.

Maintaining a higher idle to recharge dead batteries in the diesel vehicle after it has been "jump started".

My diesel came with a switch activated high idle that's implemented by using the #4 accessory switch on the Upfitter Switch Panel. All the parameters must be met to initiate the high idle (parking brake set, transmission in park, operational brake lights, engine at normal idle and vehicle speed zero). If these conditions are met, turn the #4 upfitter switch on, the switch light will illuminate and within 3 seconds the engine idle will increase to 1200RPM. There is no means to adjust idle speed on my system.

If I select a "stationary DEF regeneration" the ECU will automatically increase the idle to 1200 RPM without using the upfitter switch. At the end of the regeneration, the engine idle speed will return to normal. If the upfitter switch is turned on during the regeneration, the regeneration will cancel.

[chuckster57]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

I can think of a number of reasons why a high idle would be wanted:

Using a PTO with a winch or a snowplow hydraulic pump or other "front drive accessory" that has a high idle operating requirement.

Faster warmup in cold weather

Doing a DEF regeneration while the vehicle is parked

Cooling down the turbo more efficiently after a hard pull.

Jump starting a stranded vehicle and wanting maximum alternator output from the diesel vehicle.

Maintaining a higher idle to recharge dead batteries in the diesel vehicle after it has been "jump started".

My diesel came with a switch activated high idle that's implemented by using the #4 accessory switch on the Upfitter Switch Panel. All the parameters must be met to initiate the high idle (parking brake set, transmission in park, operational brake lights, engine at normal idle and vehicle speed zero). If these conditions are met, turn the #4 upfitter switch on, the switch light will illuminate and within 3 seconds the engine idle will increase to 1200RPM. There is no means to adjust idle speed on my system.

If I select a "stationary DEF regeneration" the ECU will automatically increase the idle to 1200 RPM without using the upfitter switch. At the end of the regeneration, the engine idle speed will return to normal. If the upfitter switch is turned on during the regeneration, the regeneration will cancel.

I was aware of t he plow/PTO stuff. Glad I dont have a need for regen, or other upfitter stuff

K.I.S.S.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by chuckster57

I was aware of t he plow/PTO stuff. Glad I dont have a need for regen, or other upfitter stuff

K.I.S.S.

I had a 1993 7.3L NA diesel. When it was parked in the garage overnight, I couldn't start it unless I opened the garage door and rolled up all the windows. Otherwise, the garage filled with black "sooty smoke" and the engine was so noisy that it hurt to be in the driver's seat with the windows down.

My current "DEF diesel" is comparable to my 6.2L gas engine in noise, even when cold and there's no "black coal on startup". The garage stays clean, no soot on everything on my workbench and no earplugs needed.

When it comes to comparing the old diesel to this newer one (mine is a third generation Scorpion) it's hard to wrap my head around "wanting to go back to what I had"..... Heck, just being able to stand in the garage with the truck running and have a conversation while actually breathing, not coughing, is enough for me to not want my old one back.

I'm not suggesting that everyone should (or shouldn't) feel the same, just giving my experience...

About the only thing I can think of that's similar to the old diesels is getting diesel on your shoes and on your hands while refueling at a "busy/dirty fuel pump".... Otherwise, there's little comparison of negatives, regardless of brand.

[rhagfo]

The big reduction in the noisy diesels was the introduction of the common rail and electronic injectors. They went from the Big Bang single injection of fuel, to a multi pulse fuel injection. It also allowed for production of more power our 2016 HO Aisin has 385 HP and 900# torque, the 2021 has 420 HP and 1,075# torque. I have seen where GM Dmax is going to be over 500 HP.

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by rhagfo

The big reduction in the noisy diesels was the introduction of the common rail and electronic injectors. They went from the Big Bang single injection of fuel, to a multi pulse fuel injection. It also allowed for production of more power our 2016 HO Aisin has 385 HP and 900# torque, the 2021 has 420 HP and 1,075# torque. I have seen where GM Dmax is going to be over 500 HP.

If you park a new Ford diesel next to a new RAM or GM diesel and start them with the hood open, you'll immediately notice a significant difference in noise while standing in front of the engine. The way Ford "insulated against noise" in the 6.7L was to put the exhaust manifold on top of the engine and the intake manifolds on the side. Essentially they swapped location of the intake/exhaust manifolds. What that did was twofold. First, it put the bulk of the engine between the "noise" and the outside, and then, it significantly shortened the "tubing for the turbo" by putting the exhaust "right next to the turbo and the intake manifolds "inline with the turbo".

With the exhaust manifolds on the side, the exhaust has to be routed "up to the turbo then down to the catalytic converter". By making that a "straight run from the cylinders through the turbo to the catalytic converter, the turbo spools faster and the plumbing run is simplified. (That's what Ford says happens)...

For me, and most newer Ford owners, we can tell when we're standing in front of our truck while it's running and there's a significant difference in the other two brands... It's a noticeable difference, not one you have to "try hard to find".

If you haven't yet asked a new Ford owner to start his truck, do so the next time you have a chance. You'll question if it's really a diesel under the hood. Then open the hood on his truck while it's running and then walk over and open the hood on your truck. You'll see what I'm talking about.

To some people, it doesn't matter, to others, they may prefer the "clatter and increased noise". For me, I prefer being able to start the truck in the garage, get out, walk over to the workbench, get my gloves and then get back in the truck without feeling the need to shut the truck off or grab earplugs for the trip. YMMV