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Old 07-29-2015, 01:09 PM   #1
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Carlisle Radial Trail RH Trailer Tire

Does anyone have personal experince with Carlisle Radial Trail RH Trailer Tire ST235 /80 R16 124L E1 BSW?

I am thinking of replacing my aging Trailer Kings to these, curious what others have experienced. One thing I like about the specs is the speed rating up to 75 mph...
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Old 07-29-2015, 01:22 PM   #2
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I ran these tires on my last 5er and have the same tire, but 235/85-16F on my current 5er. I love the tires and don't plan to put anything else on the trailer. I have not pushed the speed rating on them, my truck gets the best fuel mileage at 67 so that is the speed I tow.
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Old 07-29-2015, 07:06 PM   #3
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Just recently updated my original tires to Carlisle ST235/85R-16F 95 PSI. You may want to check your wheels and make sure they will handle these tires. Do a search on wheels or rims to see mine as well as others comments on the combination of tires and wheel ratings
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Old 07-30-2015, 01:35 AM   #4
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I have the 15" size 3years now not a problem of any kind I had them high speed spin balanced and new steal stems I run about 65 mph if hot a little slower..Heat is a big factor in tire separation. I like the 10ply safety and they are hard to find in 15"so that is one reason I went with them..I worked in the rubber business for 33-1/2 years and liked the specks of the tire I will buy them again in about 2 more years...Bushman
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Old 08-03-2015, 09:08 PM   #5
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I put them on ours last fall and did a round trip from Kelowna BC to Hemet CA plus about 1500 km of travel since with no concerns tire wear is good and even. I run at just over 60 MPH and keep the pressure at just over 80 psi
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Old 08-06-2015, 03:14 PM   #6
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Does anyone have personal experince with Carlisle Radial Trail RH Trailer Tire ST235 /80 R16 124L E1 BSW?

I am thinking of replacing my aging Trailer Kings to these, curious what others have experienced. One thing I like about the specs is the speed rating up to 75 mph...
After 2 delams and 1 catastrophic failure in the first 6 mos. I switched to these and couldn't be more pleased. Discount Tire guy talked me into them when I went in to order a set of Maxxis, promised me they were on par with them.
I am 2 years and 2 months in without a single issue.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:53 AM   #7
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Great to hear! I did go with them. I was so lucky to get as much time on my OEM Trailer Kings so I did, I knew I was on borrowed time and I wanted peace of mind before something did damage to my TH..

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Good call!
Much better than dealing with this at 9pm on a Friday night.
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:26 PM   #9
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This week I was at Discount Tire getting tires (Yokohama HTX) on the wife's Grand Cherokee. Asked the guys there about trailer tires and they highly recommended the Carlisle Radial Trail.
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Old 08-07-2015, 07:33 PM   #10
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I, too, was ready to buy Maxxis at Discount Tire when the salesman gave be a great deal on the Trail. He kept swearing by them so I bought. Couldn't be more pleased, so far. No problems in two years and 7000 miles. Time will tell.
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Old 08-24-2015, 10:48 AM   #11
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That sucks Travis! Hope you didn't suffer too much damage to your TH!
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Just recently updated my original tires to Carlisle ST235/85R-16F 95 PSI. You may want to check your wheels and make sure they will handle these tires. Do a search on wheels or rims to see mine as well as others comments on the combination of tires and wheel ratings
Yes, PARAPTOR, the specs are stamped on the back side of the rim on the spokes. All is good, thanks!

Just returned from an over 3k mile trip, and all is great so far!
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DMK Also GREAT here although have to admit had concerns with the Tire pressure/wheel rating. Currently running tires at 95 PSI and as you know wheel rating is 110 PSI. Highest Tire Pressure noted to date is 107 PSI traveling from Texas to Home. That is around a 12 and a half percent pressure rise. Not sure what the Max pressure will be. Would like some more margin, however as a worst case test other members are putting G rated tires (110 PSI) on these same wheels. At 110 PSI given a similar 12.5 pressure raise due the road temps their pressures are around 124 PSI on these same wheels. Have not heard of any failures on this combination but personally would not feel comfortable doing the same.
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That sucks Travis! Hope you didn't suffer too much damage to your TH!
Zero damage believe it or not!
Took 30 mins. to cut the tire off the back of the axle as it had wrapped around melted onto itself but that's it.
I was pretty damn lucky.
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Old 11-15-2015, 05:48 PM   #15
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First blow-out, 3 1/4 years with at least one trip a month. No damage to siding/trim, busted a hole in the plywood and pulled some wires down. Haven't run all circuits, but I know slide is dead.

Carlisle Radial Trail RH ST205/75R15 107B (load range D), ,manufactured 19th week of 2014. Curb-side rear (just above and in front of converter / power center). 7,684 miles on these tires. 3,247 mi since the last rotation and re-balance. Meticulous about pressures, run at max cold PSI = 65 with TPMS. Cruise control at no more than 65 to 66 mph. No curbs hit, but, Texas roads can get a bit rough at times. 5/32 on inner tread, 7/32 in middle and outer. All other tires run from 4/32 to 7/32. At highway speed, about 25 miles from home. Wife and I heard bang, I felt shudder and saw "snow" (insulation) in right mirror and then TPMS started alarming. No fault of TPMS, temps and pressures had shown normal variability on today's trip, confident I had not lost signal, no loss in pressure, it just blew.

I replaced the OEM tires at 9,541 mi in July of 2014, 2/32 to 3/32 on the inner or outer sides of tread on various tires.

When shopping for the Carlisles last year, couldn't go to 16" due to limited clearance above tires. I increased from a load range C to D for what I had hoped would be a bit more buffer.

Not sure if this is a one-off, or if I should consider again my options to move to an LT tire.

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Sorry to hear about your blowout and electrical damage. I am curious about the large difference I tread depth across your tires. Makes me think one of two things, either pressures or alignment issues. Based on he fact that they are wearing on one side, that leads me to believe alignment. Although you were running a TPMS which shows the tire temps, I can't help but think there had to be some additional heat build up with the scuffing that had to be occurring. The RH begins with 10/32, so your tires are showing double amounts of wear across the tread face. You say the TX roads in your area are rough, maybe it's time to check the alignment???
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Old 11-16-2015, 06:54 AM   #17
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I recently installed Carlisle's on my 16', enclosed, utility trailer that had non-ST tires for many years. They were beginning to delaminate so I went with LRD's vs LRC's for the same price at Discount tire. Have only towed it twice since then, but with metal stems and balancing I am anticipating good results, as I have had so far.

At this point in time, I would only use Maxxis or Carlisle tires on my trailers.
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Sorry to hear about your blowout and electrical damage. I am curious about the large difference I tread depth across your tires. Makes me think one of two things, either pressures or alignment issues. Based on he fact that they are wearing on one side, that leads me to believe alignment. Although you were running a TPMS which shows the tire temps, I can't help but think there had to be some additional heat build up with the scuffing that had to be occurring. The RH begins with 10/32, so your tires are showing double amounts of wear across the tread face. You say the TX roads in your area are rough, maybe it's time to check the alignment???
Yes, alignment is on my "Christmas wish list!" Installed a wet-bolt kit back in February 2014. Covered storage, no direct sun, certainly an indirect component.

Fuel stops and end of day, I will place a hand on the tread and hand on the lug nuts, never any significant difference in warmth (never hot). Yesterday, I had driven about 125 miles, less than 30 miles from home.

On Saturday, tire will get shipped off to Carlisle for them to inspect. Discount Tire Company indicated they are known to pay for collateral damage, fingers crossed, no guarantees they will pay though. USAA adjuster will assess the tire and damage to trailer before I part with the old tire. From CAT scale receipts to demonstration of proper maintenance of suspension and use of TPMS, I'm hopeful Carlisle will cover things and keep USAA out of it!

Here are a couple images of measured tread depths. I'll keep folks posted on the outcome.

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Old 11-20-2015, 04:05 AM   #19
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Next steps in the above blow out story ...

A question first: Where should my expectations for ST trailer tires be, in terms of wear and life? Is it realistic to expect 15 to 20,000 miles with +/- 1/32 across the face of the tread? Does a spread-axle set up quicken the wear with each axle farther from the pivot point? (ok, more than one question!)

Second quandary: Is it possible to tell visually, without measurements, that the axles are bad? In particular, the axles don't have a slight bow or arc, but are straight.

I ask the question about axles, as that is the first thing I was told when calling the RV repair shop (large operation, not CW, insurance indicated one of their preferred shops ... for what that's worth) to follow up on the estimate for repairs, was that the axles needed to be replaced, and it was only on visual appearance, no measurements. Never mind I have a hole in the decking and wiring damage! I was told to not worry about it, it could be covered under the comprehensive of the policy.

What are the odds? Is the shop inflating the estimate for their profit? OEM tires had similar wear, 2,000 more miles when I replaced them (just short of 10,000), but no failure.

Thanks in advance for any input the collective group has!
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:57 AM   #20
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If I am interpreting your sketch of thread depth properly, the tires on the front axle wore at a much faster rate than those on the rear axle. Am I right in with that conclusion?

Which tire did you have the blow out on?

Is your rig level or nose down thereby placing extra load on the front axle?
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