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07-12-2015, 03:39 PM
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massive tire wear
Left rear tire keeps wearing from the middle to the inside. This us the second tire in 1500 miles. The tires are trailer king. I think its from the sharp left uturns going forward and the sharp left turns backing up. As that tire shreds on the pavement. Also they are the stock "JUNK"they come with. Gonna put Transporters on just want to make sure thats normal when you make excessive sharp turns with 5vers.
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07-12-2015, 03:40 PM
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To be more technical I meant 1 tire every 1500 miles
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07-12-2015, 04:29 PM
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Sounds like an alignment issue more than anything. It is odd to myself that it is only one tire. My way of thinking is, both tires on that axle should be wearing funny. I'd be checking everything from the frame down to the axle for bent , broken , or twisted. Something is not right mechanically, not tire issue.
I hope you figure it before you invest in new tires
Carl
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07-12-2015, 04:50 PM
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Sounds like the axle is bent on that side since only the inside tread is wearing. I would have it checked before putting new tires on,
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07-12-2015, 06:14 PM
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Its patchy as if its when I turn its shreds it off which makes me think itz from turning. Its not consistantly on the tread as if its an axle????
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07-12-2015, 06:28 PM
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You'd have to be doing A LOT of excessive turning to wear a tire out in 1500 miles. Wearing on the inside only sounds like a camber issue which is most likely a bent axle. I'd take it to a good RV repair shop that can check alignment. You could also place a short level on the tires and compare that one to the other 3 to see if it is different. Not a 100% accurate way of checking, but can give you an idea if that tire is different than the others.
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07-12-2015, 06:40 PM
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Get under there and look first at everything as was said. Maybe something is bent or broke. My bet is with others a bent axle. You may be able to tell yourself by jacking up that side and rotating the tire looking at it rolling true or not.
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07-12-2015, 07:04 PM
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That is not tire wear from sharp turns or we would all be replacing tires every 1500 miles. There is something major wrong. I'd follow the advice given about checking it out.
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07-13-2015, 05:30 PM
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Run a string horizontally on the same side of the trailer, front to rear, touching only the 2 tires as near center as possible. You should see a gap between the string and tire on one side of one tire if you have something bent.
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07-13-2015, 06:25 PM
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From front to rear there is about a 1/4 inch. But the wear is top to bottom. After talking with the wife its 3000 miles. Also the passenger side is also wearing but has 6000miles on it. But I hardly make sharp right hand turns. If u split the tire in two halves one half has no tread and the other does. I have made several uturns on two lane streets also the tires are made from power king and u cant get them aftermarket. So... If you look straight down and line the tires up they look straight. Obviously its the back "turning" axle and when I turn it angles that axle like it looks like its cockeyed....enough to shred the junk tire up. Isnt the axle one solid peice from hub to hub? How could it be bent on both sides of the rear axle and both wearing but the one I make more and sharper turns with be more worn? Again I see no bent axle and its been doing this since it was new.
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07-13-2015, 06:53 PM
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The axles are not running straight to one another. Axles are all bent to run true per say . ( by design )
There has to be a broken bolt / missing bolt on that axle ( hangers, pivot , spring eyes ) and it is scrubbing down the road . Or spindle is cracked , twisted , still not a turning or tire issue.
I'd be crawling under for a real good look or getting to a shop to have them check it out.
Good Luck. I hope you figure it out
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07-13-2015, 07:25 PM
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When talking about trailer axles like these. The axle that normally gets bent is the part connected to the wheel. It is bolted onto that tube steel crossing the trailer. The wheel/tire may get hit or pushed hard enough that axle/spindle gets bent. Look at your dexter manual to see how all that stuff is put together and how it works. when you say the trailer is turning and a tire/wheel is cocked, that is how they work, that does not rip tread off, bent axle or broken parts do.
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07-13-2015, 07:44 PM
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I know how they work very well. Thanks for that tip however.
Good luck getting it figured out, I wish you the best.
I'm out
Carl
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07-13-2015, 08:46 PM
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Carl, my statement was for the guy having the problem, your advice was spot on.
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07-14-2015, 04:27 AM
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The tires will not scrub off that much from cornering. Additionally, it wouldn't be uniform scrubbing since the tires rotate very little during a hard corner and only "scrub" in a small portion of the tire. The only way to get a uniform wear pattern around the entire circumference of the tire is from rotation going down the road. My guess is that running a string down the side at the center of the tire won't show you much because it's not a tow issue. The string check is good for testing tow because one tire would be turned in or out. A tow issue would give you a cupping wear pattern across the width of the tread. What you are experiencing is a camber issue where the top of the tire is tipped in. This puts all of the weight on the inside portion of the tire creating excessive/uneven wear. It doesn't take much to create this issue and yes a trailer axle can bend in a way that only effects one tire. I good shop should be able to fix it for you, it typically does not require replacing the axle.
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07-14-2015, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bsmith0404
The tires will not scrub off that much from cornering. Additionally, it wouldn't be uniform scrubbing since the tires rotate very little during a hard corner and only "scrub" in a small portion of the tire. The only way to get a uniform wear pattern around the entire circumference of the tire is from rotation going down the road. My guess is that running a string down the side at the center of the tire won't show you much because it's not a tow issue. The string check is good for testing tow because one tire would be turned in or out. A tow issue would give you a cupping wear pattern across the width of the tread. What you are experiencing is a camber issue where the top of the tire is tipped in. This puts all of the weight on the inside portion of the tire creating excessive/uneven wear. It doesn't take much to create this issue and yes a trailer axle can bend in a way that only effects one tire. I good shop should be able to fix it for you, it typically does not require replacing the axle.
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Ill take it in but thats whats odd. Its not uniform throughout as if it was consistantly wearing. It is half the circumference is worn off. And its both rears. Just the left rear is worse. Which is why i thought it was due to more left turns. Ill take it in though.
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07-14-2015, 01:28 PM
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We had one of the original GY Marathons do the same thing, although it had well over 20,000 miles when it happened. The tire was separating; with 80 psi, the tread was deformed and not hitting the pavement the same as the others. When we changed that tire, found another was starting to separate, so replaced all 4.
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07-14-2015, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b.d.keathley
Ill take it in but thats whats odd. Its not uniform throughout as if it was consistantly wearing. It is half the circumference is worn off. And its both rears. Just the left rear is worse. Which is why i thought it was due to more left turns. Ill take it in though.
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Please post back what you find...
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07-14-2015, 06:01 PM
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What barbell said about tires separating may be found by the test I mentioned. Jack it up rotate the wheel/tire and look at it. If wobbling that's a thread separating or bent wheel or bent axle or bearing problem etc. If your unwilling to check out why it's doing that than take it to a shop and tell them what's happening. I bet in minutes you will get answers.
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07-15-2015, 02:53 AM
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BD, I couldn't tell if you live in Victorville, California or Des Arc, Arkansas by your info, but if it is Des Arc, you are two hours away from Leland Sowell's Frame and Alignment Service in Memphis. This is a shop doing serious alignment type services on heavy trucks and trailers. No, I don't know them personally, but they worked wonders on out boat trailer axles. Boat, engines and trailer about 12-14,000 pounds. If you're in Victorville then you're on your own.....
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