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03-20-2015, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueThunder34
Well I made the mistake of test driving the new F-350 diesel and man that is one powerful truck! In the far future we plan on a buying a fifth wheel but for now I would feel kind of silly pulling a 26' BH with a powerhouse like that. How do the gassers do with 5th wheels (I'm referring to the 1 ton 6.2L)? Maybe planning for the future plans I should just bite the bullet and get the diesel now. I have a beater car to drive to work daily so mpg is really not a concern for me.
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OOOPPPPPSSSSSSS you shouldn't have done that
If you have a daily driver and can swing the payment I'd go for the F-350 that way you have plenty of truck for your future RV needs.
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2000 F-250CC Powerstoke**DECEASED**
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03-20-2015, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueThunder34
Thanks great info. Do you have the long bed or short?
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Mine is a long bed supercab, 158" wheelbase. It's comparable to a crewcab short bed 156" wheelbase. I'd say they are the same truck (within 2" and 200 pounds)
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
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03-21-2015, 04:25 AM
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I'll tell you this... my '15 F-350 CC, DRW, RWD is head and shoulders above my '12 F-250 CC, LB, SRW... The fact that they both were/are Fords and both were diesels is about all that is the same between them.
For most of my life I convinced myself that I needed a 4X4 but before I traded the last Dodge off I started looking at just how many times I had really needed the 4X4... not how many time I'd engaged it... but how many times I couldn't have gotten out or more importantly how many times I wouldn't have tried it.. if I didn't have the 4X4... You know what... the total was like twice in ten years and one of those was to drive to work in an ice storm just to find that no one else was there and the lights were off.. That's the day I quit buying 4X4's.. Maybe if I still lived in Colorado..
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03-21-2015, 06:09 AM
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Thanks everyone for all of the advice and experience. I have some tough decisions ahead
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03-21-2015, 08:09 AM
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Thanks everyone for all of the advice and experience. I have some tough decisions ahead
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Yup, you do. And remember that no matter what you choose to do, there will be some who will tell you it's the wrong way, you should have........
In the end, it's your wallet, your family, your camping experience and your decision. Get all the facts, weight them against your requirements and your budget and do what's right for "you", not "them".......
Happy hunting
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
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03-22-2015, 08:13 PM
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I've had 2wd and 4wd, gas and diesel, 2500 and 3500. as far as the 2wd vs 4wd, you never miss 4wd until you need it. Imo, it's better to have and not need, than to need and not have. 2500 vs 3500, with current suspensions there isn't much difference in ride quality or price, go big. Gas vs diesel, diesel if you can afford it. It just opens doors for future upgrades. I personally wouldn't pull anything over 8000-9000 lbs with a gasser. Your current trailer wouldn't be a problem for most gassers, but could limit upgrade options for the future. As already mentioned, pros and cons for both and plenty of people on both sides of the fence to provide advice, but in the end it's your money and only you have to live with your decision
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03-23-2015, 10:34 AM
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I would definitely purchase a 4x4 for my use as I have used/needed it during multiple hunting trips up in the mountains with snow/ice/mud, etc. where if I did get stuck it would not be all the convenient to call AAA , not to mention where I live it is very rare to find a new 1 ton diesel without 4 wheel drive at the dealership. The extra insurance it provides off road is worth the extra weight and cost to me. I am really leaning towards the diesel 1 ton so I won't be as limited when the time does come to upgrade to a 5er, it may be well off in the future but I do not want to keep trading trucks as we all know who benefits from those transactions (hint its not the consumer)
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03-23-2015, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueThunder34
I would definitely purchase a 4x4 for my use as I have used/needed it during multiple hunting trips up in the mountains with snow/ice/mud, etc. where if I did get stuck it would not be all the convenient to call AAA , not to mention where I live it is very rare to find a new 1 ton diesel without 4 wheel drive at the dealership. The extra insurance it provides off road is worth the extra weight and cost to me. I am really leaning towards the diesel 1 ton so I won't be as limited when the time does come to upgrade to a 5er, it may be well off in the future but I do not want to keep trading trucks as we all know who benefits from those transactions (hint its not the consumer)
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Make sure it has limited slip in the rear diff. A lot of dealers don't spec them with LS, which is a deal killer for me.
The other nice thing about having 4WD is the option to shift to 4L or 4H when backing up an incline on gravel with a trailer. Without 4WD the attempt may be futile. Low range is much easier on my clutch when backing at a snail's pace, too. I can let the clutch out and back up at walking speed with both feet on the floor.
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-2014 Cougar 326SRX, Maxxis tires w/TPMS, wet bolts, two 6v batts.
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03-29-2015, 04:07 PM
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Location: Commerce, GA
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I pull a fifth wheel with a ram 2500 with the 6.4 Hemi. My biggest issue was paying $10k more for the cummins. I love a diesel but the price tag isn't worth it to me with all the emissions stuff and DEF and cost of fuel. I pull my rig just fine and don't get me wrong I would love to have a diesel. Now that you have drove a powerstroke it may be hard for you to go back but just letting you know that a gasser will pull a fifthwheel.
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03-29-2015, 08:43 PM
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1/2 ton to 1 ton
I pulled my 26' Cougar for years with a F150 V8. Had no problem with power but had some stability concerns due to the relatively light truck and shorter wheel base. When I upgraded to a 3500 Silverado I could not believe the difference- towing was truly effortless with no more white knuckle moments. Highly recommend a 3/4 ton or more. If you stay with the 1/2 ton I would highly recommend going with an E rated tire as the side wall stiffness will help.
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04-16-2015, 07:30 AM
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Ok so after driving and comparing just about every truck on multiple dealer lots we finally made our purchase,lol. Believe it or not we actually went with a 2014 F-150 Ecoboost Max tow with Max Payload (2,098lbs per door sticker). Went this direction for a few reasons such as cost (with rebates walked out the door for 34k) and also reality of what we would actually be towing. While a 5er some day would be great, what we have now is perfect for our young family and will still provide us the needed room as the kids get older as its a BH with plenty of room/storage. This truck is a huge improvement over my RAM not only in payload (1400 vs almost 2100) but also the turbos on the ecoboost give all that torque at 2k rpm vs the Hemi that was at about 4.5k rpm. I think of it as the poor mans diesel performance. I think I got a little too wrapped up in dreaming about a new 5er and the need for a diesel TV. Sure they were awesome trucks with unreal power and capacities but when I really started looking at the actual dollar costs I just have too many other priorities for the family right now such as setting up college funds for our 3 kids while they are young and making sure we stay financially secure. I think our upgrade in TV has improved our safety margin with our current trailer dramactily and while it took a little more financial investment to do so I'm glad I didn't go overkill for what we would actually need in reality. Thanks again for all of the posts and advice!!
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04-16-2015, 08:45 AM
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Pics or I t didn't happen!
Congrats on the new truck!
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2011 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Airlift 1000' e rated tires
2012 Sprinter 266
2014 RAM 6.7 Cummins Diesel
2015 Sandpiper 30IOK
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04-16-2015, 11:15 AM
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Pics or I t didn't happen!
Congrats on the new truck!
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LOL, thanks. Here is a quick pick taken at work, not the best pic but you get the idea....
2014 F-150 Ecoboost 4x4 Supercrew, Longbed with Max Tow and Max Payload package (very difficult to find). Black with silver accent. So far we love it!!
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04-16-2015, 11:47 AM
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Congratulations on the truck. I think you'll find it has the capacity to tow your trailer, carry the 1000 pounds of tongue load and your family. There's a lot more "cushion" with a 2100 payload than with a 1400 payload. Even though it's not "cheap", I think you'll feel much better with your family in the truck and your trailer in tow.
Happy Camping !!!
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04-16-2015, 12:22 PM
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Congrats on the new truck. Sounds like you made a good choice so........now go take those kids and the wife out and have fun!
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04-16-2015, 12:38 PM
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All us Ford fans are happy for you, and the GMC and Chevvy people are too, they just don't get as excited about it. (Do not let them catch you driving around making a sound like a diesel )On a more serious note, good on ya, mate. Let's hear every now and then how much fun the family is having!
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