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Old 05-30-2017, 10:10 AM   #1
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Keystone door keys, all the same?

So I just had two replacement door installed after haven't mine destroyed by thieves this winter.

After getting them on I saw the new keys had purple covers instead of the black like the stock ones.

I asked the repair guys if my old keys would still work and they said Keystone doesn't VIN match the keys for the new doors.

Well I tried both of my old keys after they left and my old front door key worked on the the new rear door locks.

Now I'm worried than anyone with Keystone keys might be able to open my camper.

Has anyone every tried your keys on another Keystone camper or had an old set you tried on a new camper?

What are the chances that a new door just happens to have the same key as my two year old camper?
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:22 AM   #2
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There's a chance. There's only so many key combinations so someone, somewhere, will have your same key. There was thread on here awhile ago about it. I wouldn't worry too much though, as you sadly found out a key isn't needed to open the door. Glad you are FINALLY getting everything put back together.

Edit - Also, it's not Keystone keys. Keystone sources locks from various suppliers just as other mfgs do, so the keys are not just across the Keystone brand or lines.
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Old 05-30-2017, 01:15 PM   #3
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Now I'm worried than anyone with Keystone keys might be able to open my camper.
As with anything of value, locks and keys are there only "to keep honest people honest", especially contents of RV's.

As already pointed out, there are a limited number of global link key codes (50 or so). Chances are that if you lost your keys on a trip, you could walk around any given campground and find someone who had the same key code to open your doors.

I think there are even less key codes to the cam locks on most pass-throughs.
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Old 05-30-2017, 01:35 PM   #4
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And don't even get me started on the infamous "CH751"! Not only can they use your outside shower, it'll even start your Golf Cart and or Lawn Mower.

It's been an industry stand by for years.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:18 PM   #5
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Well, personally I hope they take a shower and then start my lawn mower and mow the lawn.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:25 PM   #6
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Might be worthwhile looking into TriMark lock sets. Takes a different "pass" key as they aren't common on trailers.
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Old 05-31-2017, 08:39 AM   #7
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I know I successfully broke a lock by putting the wrong key in it. It turned part way and stopped working forever.


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I wondered that too
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Old 07-05-2017, 05:23 PM   #9
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on my 2016 325, I have separate keys for front and rear doors. Same key fits door and dead bolt. The guy I take it to for inspection,
(not campingworld), says lock the dead bolt. He's says the generic keys they use will not open the dead bolt.
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Old 07-06-2017, 03:50 AM   #10
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And don't even get me started on the infamous "CH751"!
doesn't this possibly start something to further the issue of anxiety to this topic ?
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Old 07-07-2017, 03:10 PM   #11
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on my 2016 325, I have separate keys for front and rear doors. Same key fits door and dead bolt. The guy I take it to for inspection,
(not campingworld), says lock the dead bolt. He's says the generic keys they use will not open the dead bolt.
That's interesting about the dead bolt. I noticed that the global link locks on my carbon have the "M" on paddle lock cylinders, but not the dead bolt cylinders. The 'M' supposedly means you can change (remove) the cylinder with a Master key, which seems to jive with what you were told. If that's the case, I wonder if it's possible to change the lock cylinder on the dead bolt without replacing the entire assembly? I'd like to change mine so both front and rear doors use the same key (all 4 locks). Anyone know?
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Old 07-07-2017, 03:26 PM   #12
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"M" is the series. It takes a "change" key to change cylinders not a master key. Since a new complete lock set is only about $35.00 it would probably be less hassle to just order two locksets with the same key.
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"M" is the series. It takes a "change" key to change cylinders not a master key. Since a new complete lock set is only about $35.00 it would probably be less hassle to just order two locksets with the same key.
okay, thanks for the clarification. So the "change" key can remove/install both cylinder types? I guess you're right about it being easier to replace the lock sets, since they won't sell you a change key anyway.
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Old 07-07-2017, 03:57 PM   #14
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Yeah, the change key can do both.
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Old 07-14-2017, 03:09 PM   #15
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A couple of stories about keys not RV key but car. As said they are only so many combinations. Back in 1960 I got a 49 Studebaker from my grandfather and I needed a new trunk lock. I went to a local junkyard here and got one that even had the key. Well one day I mistakenly was using the ignition key and it worked. Well the ignition switch had been replaced one time when Grandpa was visiting my uncle in LA. So here was a trunk lock here in Mi. matching an ignition lock bought in LA.
A friend had a 58 Impala and his buddy could "borrow" it using the key from his 58 Pontiac.
Another was a 53 Chevy owners key would work on his buddies 54 Chevy. Yes these are all older cars but they weren't when this was happening
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^ I can attest to the above. Back in the day at the larger Mustang car shows we would go around to the various cars to see if anyone could start one of the other cars with their own set of keys. I personally have done it more than once. Don't know if technology is any better now. How many combinations can there be?
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:31 PM   #17
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FIC Keysets

Recently when I was trying to get a matching lockset for either of my FIC locksets I found that one of them was a defective lockset covered under their recall. They replaced that one, no charge, and I then ordered a second with the same code. It was only 8 or 9 dollars and they supplied a change key which removed all 4 tumblers and supplied a return envelope to return the change key. The instructions stated to put the lock in the 3 o'clock position with the old key and then the change key was used to remove the lock. I'm not certain that the change key would remove a locked tumbler?
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