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Originally Posted by Newk
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Keystone says pin weight of 3,200. I assume that is calculated off of the 17,000 GVW. ...
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If you're referencing the specifications on the Keystone website and/or in the Keystone brochures, the pin weight is the EMPTY TRAILER PIN as it leaves the factory. That means empty propane tanks, no battery and no spare tire/wheel/bumper adapter. And, typically it's for the "standard build trailer" so if a washer/dryer are optional, if the front bedroom A/C is optional, the weight of those items will NOT be included in the pin weight shown on the website/brochure.
Essentially, all manufacturers (there may be a few that don't, I haven't found them) advertise this way:
Shipping weight: Empty trailer weight as it leaves the factory with NO optional equipment, empty propane tanks, no battery and no spare tire/wheel.
Pin weight/tongue weight: Empty weights as measured for the "no optional equipment trailer, as it leaves the factory.
Carrying Capacity: The maximum cargo (payload) you can add to the trailer to reach the trailer GVW. Again, this is the "standard build trailer" so deduct for all optional equipment on the specific trailer.
Fresh Water Capacity: This includes all fresh water in the trailer. Remember there is fresh water in the water heater, so as an example, if the capacity is listed at 50 gallons and the trailer has a 10 gallon water heater, the FW tank capacity is 40 gallons.
Black Tank Capacity is for all black tanks, There is ALWAYS a black tank for each toilet, so if it's a single bathroom floorplan, the black tank capacity is for a single tank. If the floorplan is a two toilet model, then it's likely there are two "equal capacity" black tanks, each will hold 1/2 the listed capacity.
Gray Tank Capacity is also for all tanks. Typically there are two and they are each 1/2 of the total listed capacity, but sometimes there may be one larger tank and one smaller tank. The only "reliable" way to know for sure is to actually "drain, then fill with measured water" to determine the "as close as possible" capacity.
Don't rely on "guesses" for pin weight or trailer weight. Each is going to be different depending on how that specific trailer is equipped and loaded. Just because the brochure says the pin weight is 3200 pounds DOES NOT mean that yours will be anywhere close to that figure. You may be 1000 or even more pounds heavier than the "empty, shipping pin weight". The chances of being lighter than the advertised pin weight is very unlikely....