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02-19-2021, 10:29 AM
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Double Tow
Since I live in and around states that allow you to double tow with a 5er, I would would like to tow my UTV on a trailer behind my 2020 Cougar 24RDS.
I found where Keystone put a sticker indicating the maximum hitch weight for the receiver that came with the trailer but can't find what the maximum towing capacity is. My UTV and trailer weigh 2050# + about 150# of gear.
Does anyone know what the weight limit is???
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02-19-2021, 10:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceEA
Since I live in and around states that allow you to double tow with a 5er, I would would like to tow my UTV on a trailer behind my 2020 Cougar 24RDS.
I found where Keystone put a sticker indicating the maximum hitch weight for the receiver that came with the trailer but can't find what the maximum towing capacity is. My UTV and trailer weigh 2050# + about 150# of gear.
Does anyone know what the weight limit is???
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I believe it will be the maximum tow on your truck.. the weight of the hitch will be added to the actual weight of the trailer now the two cannot exceed your trailer gvwr or your max combined weight rating of your truck.. and your hitch you use on the truck must be sized for the additional weight .. my reciever on my cougar is rated for 300 lbs..for a bike rack or cargo rack, not sure if I would trust for dragging a trailer but I’m sure others on the site know... there are other posts on the site that address some of this if you do a search
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02-19-2021, 10:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceEA
Since I live in and around states that allow you to double tow with a 5er, I would would like to tow my UTV on a trailer behind my 2020 Cougar 24RDS.
I found where Keystone put a sticker indicating the maximum hitch weight for the receiver that came with the trailer but can't find what the maximum towing capacity is. My UTV and trailer weigh 2050# + about 150# of gear.
Does anyone know what the weight limit is???
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I looked at the 2021 brochure here. I dont think you are supposed to tow anything behind a 1/2 ton fifth wheel. It says 2" "accessory" hitch with 300 lb capacity. I think that means bike rack or small cargo tray only. I have a Montana, much beefier, it says on mine 2" hitch with 300lbs tongue and max trailer 3000 lbs. I wouldnt personally put anything behind a 1/2 ton fiver unless you were just using it to move something around a parking lot or something.
https://keystone-rv-dealer-app.cdn.p...Dec20f_WEB.pdf
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02-19-2021, 11:03 AM
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Don't know if it's different with your '1/2 ton' 5th wheel but pretty certain the hitch on my '1/2 ton' TT is basically for utility use - bike rack etc.
You are already pulling a really large (over?)load for that F150 with a 10K GVWR 5th wheel, so not sure how advisable your plan is, even if the hitch would support it. I'm sure more experienced members will be responding.
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02-19-2021, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by markcee
Don't know if it's different with your '1/2 ton' 5th wheel but pretty certain the hitch on my '1/2 ton' TT is basically for utility use - bike rack etc.
You are already pulling a really large (over?)load for that F150 with a 10K GVWR 5th wheel, so not sure how advisable your plan is, even if the hitch would support it. I'm sure more experienced members will be responding.
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Wtf ! I didnt catch that earlier ...yeah not a good idea
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02-19-2021, 11:36 AM
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Yeah, what Nellie and Mark said. Especially behind your F-150. You really need some truck.
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02-19-2021, 12:22 PM
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The use of the "Accessory hitch" for towing is answered in the FAQ section on the Keystone website: https://www.keystonerv.com/owners-how-to
Can I add a rear hitch to my RV?
Some KRV products are equipped with a receiver for bike rack use only. Any additions or modifications to our units would void the warranty. Please see your Owner’s Manual in regards to modifications.
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02-19-2021, 12:32 PM
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Time for one of my favorite videos
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02-19-2021, 03:34 PM
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Mine specifically says, not for towing.
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02-19-2021, 04:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchmensport
Mine specifically says, not for towing.
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I would suspect that all of them are supposed to leave the factory with that decal. No doubt a few probably are missed and possibly a few decals are removed by dealers, fall off or just "haven't been found yet" by the owner, on a quick glance without crawling under the trailer....
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02-20-2021, 06:17 AM
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What I have heard, if they come with wired for a 3rd trailer, they are rated for one. If no wiring, they are not designed to tow.
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02-20-2021, 07:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceEA
Since I live in and around states that allow you to double tow with a 5er, I would would like to tow my UTV on a trailer behind my 2020 Cougar 24RDS.
I found where Keystone put a sticker indicating the maximum hitch weight for the receiver that came with the trailer but can't find what the maximum towing capacity is. My UTV and trailer weigh 2050# + about 150# of gear.
Does anyone know what the weight limit is???
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I looked up the 2020 24RDS on Keystones web page.
https://www.keystonerv.com/product/c...oorplans/24RDS
It clearly shows a 3000 pound tow rating for the receiver.
Gary
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02-20-2021, 06:23 PM
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I have a 2021 24RDS and it has a hitch rated at 3,000 pounds. I know this is a new thing to Cougars, in past years it used to be a 300 pound accessory only. Then chain loops and power connector were added and it is now a "full towable" hitch. I would say that's an easy indicator to see if it's accessory only or full tow hitch. If you see the power connector and chain loops, then likely it is the 3,000 hitch. In that case, I'd give their customer service number a call to confirm.
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02-20-2021, 06:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fluis
I have a 2021 24RDS and it has a hitch rated at 3,000 pounds. I know this is a new thing to Cougars, in past years it used to be a 300 pound accessory only. Then chain loops and power connector were added and it is now a "full towable" hitch. I would say that's an easy indicator to see if it's accessory only or full tow hitch. If you see the power connector and chain loops, then likely it is the 3,000 hitch. In that case, I'd give their customer service number a call to confirm.
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My 2020 315rls has the sticker..not for towing.. it seems odd they would make a lightweight trailer and then give it a hitch to double tow
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02-20-2021, 06:38 PM
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02-20-2021, 06:40 PM
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Also note in the video he explains the heated underbelly and how the water lines are ran along the frame with the heat ducts against them for radiating the heat as John has said
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02-20-2021, 06:41 PM
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Right, at minute 21:20 Josh explains that the 2021 Cougar 24RDS has a 3,000 towing hitch.
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02-22-2021, 03:15 PM
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There are always those who never let the facts get in the way of their pre-conceived ideas.
A properly equipped 2019 and newer F150 has a towing capacity of 13,200 pounds. I never have a gross trailer weight over 9500#.
I do have some truck, it handles my towing needs, I don't have to use DEF and when I'm not towing, I get 21 MPG. Yep, that's some truck.
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02-22-2021, 03:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BruceEA
There are always those who never let the facts get in the way of their pre-conceived ideas.
A properly equipped 2019 and newer F150 has a towing capacity of 13,200 pounds. I never have a gross trailer weight over 9500#.
I do have some truck, it handles my towing needs, I don't have to use DEF and when I'm not towing, I get 21 MPG. Yep, that's some truck.
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Irregardless of any soon to come "factors" I'm sure you will get pumelled with by the weight police (that are surely forthcoming).....I'd pay money to see an f150 with 13,200 lbs behind it with the 3.5 engine.
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02-22-2021, 03:48 PM
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While I would never go to the stated max 5th wheel/gooseneck rating of 11,400 listed in the in the Ford RV and towing guide it does handle 10,000 nicely through the Rocky Mountains.
Bruce please double check the tow rating for fifth wheel/gooseneck towing I do not see an entry for 13,200 on the gooseneck towing section. It is a different rating for 5th wheel and goosenecks than it is for conventional towing. I suspect you will be hitting the max limits once you add a second trailer.
It is possible to tow a light weight 5th wheel with a properly equipped 1/2 ton truck. While it may not be the right fit for some of you on here it can be done safely and legally. My rig is within all ratings. I do mean the white and yellow stickers on the door frame. I do have to pay attention to how I load the trailer and I do weigh it during the season.
Personally I would not try to double tow with mine. Although mine does not have a receiver hitch at the rear anyways I would be at or beyond max ratings if I did.
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