Swapping out BlowMaxx's

[Ram189]

Wife and I sitting here talking about camping and where to go this Spring.

Trailer is less than a year old and I am having trouble with paying to put tires on it. She asks me about the site and what everyone says. I pull up the site and this area with all the stories of blowouts.

She says "Call Monday and have them put tires on it while it is in there for the warranty work being done."

That was an easy decision.

Now what does everyone thing about Goodyear Marathons??

[notanlines]

What brand do you have right now, and what troubles have you had? If you have Maxxis then I'm curious about all this because they seem to get good reviews from those on this site. I also have heard good things about the Kenda Brand Tires, load range F and G for your trailer.

[sourdough]

Have you looked around at prices? I don't know that the RV dealership would be the best place to buy the tires....just thinking. When they charge $120 per labor hr. I'm thinking it might be cheaper elsewhere.

[chuckster57]

Originally Posted by sourdough

Have you looked around at prices? I don't know that the RV dealership would be the best place to buy the tires....just thinking. When they charge $120 per labor hr. I'm thinking it might be cheaper elsewhere.

I agree. Just call the local tire stores and ask for the price mounted and installed. Then call your dealer and ask them how much they would charge. I don't know of any RV dealers that have a tire machine, so your going to pay for labor to remove, drive to the tire shop and mount. I don't know the rates in your area, but ours is $139.00/hr.

[sourdough]

Here's a comment I pulled from a website called roamingtimes.com for RVrs I suppose for your consideration.


"Steve JOnes - Bought my 2012 Montana 3400RL new in 2012. On our first trip, had another driver flagged us down to tell us one of our tires was buging. Since then after 1700 miles I have had three additional flats or blowouts. All tires are 2010 date. I always checked tire presures before and during trip. These are Goodyear Marathon ST235-80R16 Load E. I am going to a Goodyear dealer this week as it looks like Keystone will be of no help. "

[sw342]

If You have 15" rims I would go for the Maxxis. If you have 16" you have a couple choices depending on what load rating you need. I just put some Sailun S637's on as I did not want to trust the no name brand that were on there any longer.

[notanlines]

Just a little humor thrown in here: SW wrote "If You have 15" rims I would go for the Maxxis. If you have 16" you have a couple choices depending on what load rating you need. I just put some Sailun S637's on as I did not want to trust the no name brand that were on there any longer. " Sailun group is the same organization that brings you "Duck Commander" and "Trailer King" tires.

[Ram189]

The dealer quoted me $120 mount and installed. I was going to look around but working as a service director at a car dealership my trailer dealership and I have an understanding.
They treat me very fairly and I never shop them if I feel they are treating me fairly.

[chuckster57]

$120.00 for tire mount seems a bit high. They are mounting the tires at the dealership?

I can get a tire mounted for $10.00/ea and it only takes about 15 minutes total time to remove and install 4 wheels.

[sw342]

Originally Posted by notanlines

Just a little humor thrown in here: SW wrote "If You have 15" rims I would go for the Maxxis. If you have 16" you have a couple choices depending on what load rating you need. I just put some Sailun S637's on as I did not want to trust the no name brand that were on there any longer. " Sailun group is the same organization that brings you "Duck Commander" and "Trailer King" tires.

yep...but if have done your research you would know about Sailun and know they are not even in the same league as Trailer King Not quite sure if you are joking or are uninformed, so I don't want to come down too hard on you.

[CWtheMan]

I'm kind of curious as to why you want to change tires on a 2014 trailer.

According to Keystone specs you already have LRE 16" tires on 5200# axles. That's already a lot of extra load capacity for those axles.

CW

[smokeyfl]

Mine came with Trailer King tires which served me well for 8000 miles. Replaced them with Carlisle's as we are taking a long trip next month with 2 Ultras in the garage and wanted the extra capacity. What brand / size do you have now?

[sw342]

Originally Posted by CWtheMan

I'm kind of curious as to why you want to change tires on a 2014 trailer.

According to Keystone specs you already have LRE 16" tires on 5200# axles. That's already a lot of extra load capacity for those axles.

CW

Most people are not concerned about the specs and load rating of the tires that are supplied on the trailer from the factory as much as they are concerned about the quality of the tire that is provided. The tires that came on my 2013 were a no-name brand that could not even find on the internet. I figured 2 years and 5000 miles were enough to push my luck on them. They might have lasted me another 4 years and 15K miles, but that was not a gamble I was willing to take.

[notanlines]

Actually I wasn't looking to offend you, which I'm certain I did. I was just pointing out the humor of a company like TBC Brands, Sailun's distributor, also handling the likes of Duck Commander (?). Wouldn't we all feel comfortable cruising down the interstate on a set of Duck Commanders! We have looked into Sailun's and a host of other top brands. For $700 for a set of 4 delivered to Florida, not to mention load range G, I'd say they are at or close to the top of my list.

[CWtheMan]

Originally Posted by sw342

Most people are not concerned about the specs and load rating of the tires that are supplied on the trailer from the factory as much as they are concerned about the quality of the tire that is provided. The tires that came on my 2013 were a no-name brand that could not even find on the internet. I figured 2 years and 5000 miles were enough to push my luck on them. They might have lasted me another 4 years and 15K miles, but that was not a gamble I was willing to take.

Sorry I should have quoted that post to the OP as it's about his trailer which is very light for LRE 16" ST tires.

CW

[CWtheMan]

I’m not sure any brand of ST tire can be better than the others. ST tires are not tested, other than what is necessary to attain DOT certification. Automotive tires are road tested by their manufacturers. People like consumer affairs groups will observe the testing methods and report their findings to the public. We can read the pros & cons and sometimes make our decisions based on those reports. That sort of thing doesn’t happen with ST tires. We, the public are the test platform for all ST tires.

What we end-up counting on is strictly anecdotal information. There are all sorts of red flag warnings about such information. When a researcher like me looks at the whole picture after many years of hunting for the truths it becomes apparent that ST tires are severely punished for being different.

They are not required by any DOT regulation to provide any load capacity reserves beyond the minimum requirements. They degrade faster than automotive tires so they are not going to last very long when being used near their maximum load capacity.

In the Automotive industry catastrophic tire failures are scrutinized very closely by NHTSA. Well it also happens with ST tires. The problem is the investigations strongly support the ST tire manufacturers claims of misuse and abuse, ie; Overloaded, Under Inflated, Excessive Speed and road hazards.

Once I get that far people tend to quit reading, so I’ll stop right here.

CW

[gearhead]

I replaced Towmax tires on both of my 5th wheels almost immediately with Maxxis. For me it was peace of mind. I'm a bit of a worrier.
I agree 100% with CW though.
I do think NHTSA should investigate failures closely and re-examine the standards.

[Toy Teacher]

I replaced my TowMaxx tires with Goodyear G614 RST a year and 10k miles ago and been very happy with them Last summer I lost count on the number of trailers in campgrounds with the sides ripped off do to tire failure I had a number of people that I was parked next to with torn up trailers say "Keep a eye on your tires" and proceed to ask what tires are you running and most after telling them what tires I run replied with "Oh my god I looked at those and Dam there to much $$" I'm sorry I just don't understand why many people want to spend as little as possible for tires on there 50k+ trailers.

[pakuma]

Ram189
If you are the Service Director at a Mopar dealership you can get your tires through the Mopar Tire Program.
I am a retired Service director and I got my Maxxis' through that program at the dealership I retired from.

[Ram189]

Originally Posted by chuckster57

$120.00 for tire mount seems a bit high. They are mounting the tires at the dealership?

I can get a tire mounted for $10.00/ea and it only takes about 15 minutes total time to remove and install 4 wheels.

That is $120 for tire and mounting.