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Old 12-22-2018, 06:34 AM   #1
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Special Trailer Tire Review - end of year

We’re coming to the end of 2018. It’s been a year of great expansion for the Special Trailer (ST) industry. New designated sizes and additional load capacities for established designated sizes.

We now have 16” tires in a wide variety of brand names fully capable of supporting 8000# Vehicle certified axles and with a nice percentage of load capacity reserves.

A China tire manufacturer (Triangle) is building a huge state of the art plant in NC and should be fully operational in 2021 with a full line-up of ST tires in all size and load capacity categories.

The Recreational Vehicle Industrial Association (RVIA) made a bold move with recommendations for its participating members to insure all future RV trailers were fitted with tires that provide at least 10% in load capacity reserves above the vehicle certified axle limits. They also recommended bias ply trailer tires be limited to wheels less than 14” in OD.

We now have steel cased tires in designated sizes LT235/85R16G, ST235/80R16G, ST235/85R16G and ST225/75R15F. Just about every ST tire manufacturer now use the Nylon overlays on all ST tires 15” & 16” in diameter. Speed ratings are pretty standard at 75 MPH or greater depending on the manufacturer. I don’t know why Maxxis won’t get onboard with a speed rating. They haven’t answered any email about speed ratings for their ST line-up. (If it’s not on the tire it’s nonexistent and defaults to 65 MPH).

RV trailer owners are skeptical about ST brand names. Maybe it’s just the unknown thing. Large nationwide tire retail stores like Discount tire or The Tire Rack often want tire recognition. They will ask foreign tire manufacturers for catchy names that will make their ST tire sales unique. OEM providers like Lionshead or Greenball do the same thing. A popular foreign named tire may be made in the same plant, with the same molds as those tires with a catchy name. It may be best to do a little tire plant researching before condemning a catchy named tire. It just may have the same formula as a more popular named tire.

There are three major RV shows in my area each year. They will start soon and I’ll go again and see what all the popular tire brands are and how many of those larger trailers are shoed. The high dollar brand names usually have 17.5” wheel/tire assemblies. I’m wondering if some of them will have switched to the steel cased ST tires.

A few months ago I went to the local BASS boat show. We have a large fishing tournament hear each year and it’s always followed with a boat show. I was quite surprised this year to find a high percentage of the larger dual axle bass boat trailers equipped with passenger tires. With ST tires now sporting speed letters for 87 MPH I’ll bet that passenger tire percentage will drop next year. Being a BASS sponsor I was also surprised that Carlisle’s percentage was not in the top 75% category. Maybe their new CSL steel cased line-up with higher MPH ratings will get them in a better light with BASS next year.

Reference List:

https://www.carlstargroup.com/prop65
http://triangletireus.com/truck-tires/tr653/
https://corporate.goodyear.com/en-US...iler_tire.html
https://lanxess.com/uploads/tx_lxsma...sented_4-3.pdf
http://www.harriger.com/tire4.htm
https://www.ustires.org/sites/defaul...B_44_USTMA.pdf
https://www.ustires.org/sites/defaul...B_23_USTMA.pdf
https://www.ustires.org/sites/defaul...B_21_USTMA.pdf
https://www.maxxis.com/technology/how-a-tire-is-made
https://www.rvia.org/standards-regul...nd-regulations
https://recstuff.com/trailer-tires-w..._source=criteo

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Old 12-22-2018, 09:05 AM   #2
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Special Trailer Tire Review - end of year

Excellent read and as always tons of good info with resources. I’ve enjoyed all your tire and wheel info and Im sure others have learned tons from your posts.

Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a safe New Year. Safe travels.
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Old 12-22-2018, 10:42 AM   #3
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Would it be great if the term "China Bomb" went away with better RV tires. Sounds like the US is making some progress to help.
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Excellent work as always, CW. Thanks for the excellent info.
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Old 12-23-2018, 05:27 AM   #5
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Not sure what BASS would have to do with trailer tires. They are a sportsman/ conservation and some political lobbying group. Dedicated to maintaining the sport of fishing for all.
They do operate one the most recognized tournament circuits,
It’s the boating industry that would influence the tire issue.
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Not sure what BASS would have to do with trailer tires. They are a sportsman/ conservation and some political lobbying group. Dedicated to maintaining the sport of fishing for all.
They do operate one the most recognized tournament circuits,
It’s the boating industry that would influence the tire issue.

Carlisle has built special trailer tires for many years. They, like many other tire manufacturers, sponsor user groups, especially those that may use their tires. In this case it's BASS.

"The Carlstar Group has renewed their sponsorship agreement with American Bass Anglers to market their Carlisle branded tires as the official tire of the ABA."
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Old 12-23-2018, 12:43 PM   #7
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Ok won’t disagree but ABA is totally different organization than B.A.S.S.
Unless your a “ sponsor” paid pro 99% of us B.A.S.S. members buy and pay for our own rigs. We are just as likely to be running china bombs as rv’ers. Experience will make you think twice about what you run.
Thanks for your information.
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