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06-14-2020, 04:04 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Anderson
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Greenhorns, Newbies, Clueless
We have literally never even been camping. Now we own a 2020 Alpine 3400RS pulling it with a Silverado 2500 Duramax. We’re excited but there is a lot to learn. We are counting on you all to help us through this!
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06-14-2020, 04:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Woodbridge New Jersey
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Welcome Kurt&Julie to the forum from New Jersey, There are a lot of great people here to help.
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06-14-2020, 04:20 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,600
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First, WELCOME to the forum! Lots of great folks here with tons of knowledge and willing to share so fire away with the questions. Good to have you aboard.
WOW! Never been camping? You guys sure jumped in big! If you've never towed larger RVs just keep in mind that you have a 15,000lb. trailer. That requires a substantial tow truck so you might want to do some searches and look into the capabilities of that 2500.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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06-14-2020, 04:24 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Shreveport
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Welcome!! I know you'll enjoy it. Lots of good advice given here.
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06-14-2020, 04:35 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
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Welcome to the forum
Congrats on jumping in to the deep end!! Lots of good information and loads of great people here. Like Danny said, that’s a lot of trailer.
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2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.
Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
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06-14-2020, 05:00 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Anderson
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Appreciate the concerns about the truck. Thought a lot about that and researched to try to get it right. GCWR is 27,500. Diesel seems to have power to spare. Should be covered. Took practice run today and spent a few hours backing into a 12 foot wide lane. Glad I didn’t have an audience for that! I’ve got a few weeks to practice before our maiden voyage.
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06-14-2020, 05:14 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt&Julie
Appreciate the concerns about the truck. Thought a lot about that and researched to try to get it right. GCWR is 27,500. Diesel seems to have power to spare. Should be covered. Took practice run today and spent a few hours backing into a 12 foot wide lane. Glad I didn’t have an audience for that! I’ve got a few weeks to practice before our maiden voyage.
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Be sure and do some searches; maybe post the numbers from the driver door stating payload, gawrs etc. GCWR is actually just one number that has to be adhered to ….and is one of the harder ones to hit. Check those numbers and look for payload and vehicle gvw...might be EYE opening.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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06-14-2020, 05:42 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Anderson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Be sure and do some searches; maybe post the numbers from the driver door stating payload, gawrs etc. GCWR is actually just one number that has to be adhered to ….and is one of the harder ones to hit. Check those numbers and look for payload and vehicle gvw...might be EYE opening.
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Thanks Danny. Told the dealer it was important to me to get the match right. He said the truck would laugh at the trailer. I sure appreciate you taking a look.
GVWR 11,350
GCWR 27,500
RGAWR 6,600
Curb Weight 8,298
Max Payload 3,052
Gooseneck TWR 18,500
Goose neck Max Tongue Weight 2,775
Alpine 3400RS
Shipping Weight 12,057
Carrying Capacity 2,943
Hitch 2,410
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06-14-2020, 05:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hemlock
Posts: 816
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt&Julie
Thanks Danny. Told the dealer it was important to me to get the match right. He said the truck would laugh at the trailer. I sure appreciate you taking a look.
GVWR 11,350
GCWR 27,500
RGAWR 6,600
Curb Weight 8,298
Max Payload 3,052
Gooseneck TWR 18,500
Goose neck Max Tongue Weight 2,775
Alpine 3400RS
Shipping Weight 12,057
Carrying Capacity 2,943
Hitch 2,410
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Payload will be your issue. That is a 15K RV. Loaded light your pin would be 3K. That is all your payload. That doesn't consider the weight of the hitch or anything else in the truck. Every item that wasn't in the truck when it came off the line must be subtracted from the payload.
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R.J. and Ginger
2019 Ram 3500 6.7 HO, Aisin Trans 3:73
Reese Goosebox
2019 Sandpiper 379FLOK
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06-14-2020, 06:13 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2020
Location: Anderson
Posts: 10
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Question, is the hitch weight posted by Keystone (2,410) at shipping weight or at its loaded capacity?
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06-14-2020, 06:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hemlock
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt&Julie
Question, is the hitch weight posted by Keystone (2,410) at shipping weight or at its loaded capacity?
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Shipping before batteries or propane. Usually it is 20-25% or the RV weight when you are loaded and traveling. If you load yours to 15K which is the GVW then you will be 3,000-3,750LBS. I have a 15K trailer and I am at 3,200-3,300LBS depending what we load.
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R.J. and Ginger
2019 Ram 3500 6.7 HO, Aisin Trans 3:73
Reese Goosebox
2019 Sandpiper 379FLOK
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06-14-2020, 06:23 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kurt&Julie
Question, is the hitch weight posted by Keystone (2,410) at shipping weight or at its loaded capacity?
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Hitch weight posted by Keystone is meaningless. It didn't include your propane batteries etc. from the gitgo. Then you and anything/everything you do/add to the trailer. Meaningless. Unless you load it fully (truck/trailer) and run it across a scale you must use 20% of the gvw as the "pin" weight. Numbers will be much different but real world.
Edit: Tech740 has posted real life numbers that are consistent with your situation. My previous 3/4 ton, dispensed with at the end of 2019, had a payload of 3200. I purchased a new 5th wheel with a gvw of 14,500 and could/would not tow it with it. I have a new 3500.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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06-14-2020, 08:53 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Oregon High Desert
Posts: 1,550
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Hello Kurt & Julie,
Welcome to the forum!!
Take care!
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Gary & Deb (44 years)
RV: Keystone 2013 Alpine 3495FL
TV: 2014 RAM 3500HD Laramie Long Box, 6.4 HEMI, 4x4, 4.10's, with Mopar Puck system, and a B&W Companion hitch.
Retired Firefighter/EMT.
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