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07-29-2020, 12:23 PM
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Junior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CedarCreekWoody
The diesel engine is much heavier than your gasser, reducing the payload.
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I went and did some research after I posted and I have a lot more payload but less towing capacity. I just never thought about the engine weight difference. I had always thought the diesels were much higher.
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07-29-2020, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebees42
Where did you get the payload numbers? Here is a screenshot of my truck and yours should be higher than mine. Well I couldn't get it to load and mine says my payload is 3730. I have a 2020 6.4 hemi with 8 speed tranny.
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Screen shot? As in something off the internet? What's actually on the truck is the actual payload
To post a picture first click on "go advanced", then click on the paper clip to the right of the smiley face next to the font color. Then find the file to upload and click on choose file, then upload.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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07-29-2020, 12:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flybouy
Screen shot? As in something off the internet? What's actually on the truck is the actual payload
To post a picture first click on "go advanced", then click on the paper clip to the right of the smiley face next to the font color. Then find the file to upload and click on choose file, then upload.
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My truck label on the door doesn't give payload. It gives gvwr but you need to know truck weight I'm guessing to get payload. I got my numbers off rams truck page. It goes by truck, gear ratio, bed length and motor.
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07-29-2020, 01:42 PM
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Sticker in door frame says "COMBINED WEIGHT OF OCCUPANTS AND CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED ...." That number is the payload.
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2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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07-29-2020, 01:44 PM
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Mine is a 19 and has the sticker on the door. It should be white and yellow and list maximum occupancy load. The website will not be valid for your truck.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-29-2020, 01:48 PM
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Junior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
Sticker in door frame says "COMBINED WEIGHT OF OCCUPANTS AND CARGO SHOULD NEVER EXCEED ...." That number is the payload.
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I have that and mine is 3070
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07-29-2020, 01:55 PM
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I found it. It was on the jamb. The one on the door is about gvwr and axle weight
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07-29-2020, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebees42
I have that and mine is 3070
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You might want to go to your profile (click User CP) and add a signature with your tow vehicle year make and model and the same for your camper. This will help folks a lot when trying to answer questions you have in the future. Keep in mind that every gee-gaw, kiddo, tool, etc. that you put in your camper plus the tongue weight or hitch weight and the hitch itself eats into that payload. You now have become a payload expert and perhaps can join the weight police who patrol this forum night and day!
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wiredgeorge Mico TX
2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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07-29-2020, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebees42
I have that and mine is 3070
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Ahhh! Much better! I was trying to figure out if you had a 3/4 - 1 ton hybrid or something with that 3700 payload. My 3/4 6.4 was 3190 (or 3090?).
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-29-2020, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wiredgeorge
You might want to go to your profile (click User CP) and add a signature with your tow vehicle year make and model and the same for your camper. This will help folks a lot when trying to answer questions you have in the future. Keep in mind that every gee-gaw, kiddo, tool, etc. that you put in your camper plus the tongue weight or hitch weight and the hitch itself eats into that payload. You now have become a payload expert and perhaps can join the weight police who patrol this forum night and day!
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Ok I will do it soon. I just traded campers and don't pick it up until next week. I seen the first post and it scared me for a bit. The camper we are getting is a bit bigger than I set out for but I think I'll be ok. It will be 1500# pin weight and 8500 dry weight. I'm switching from tt to fifth wheel. My tt was around 7000 # and we took a 300 mile trip and I could hardly tell it was back there. I averaged 10.3 mpg on that trip.
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07-29-2020, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebees42
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Same drivetrain as mine was. What is the year, brand and model number of the trailer. Dry weights and published dry pin weights are meaningless for assessing your load.
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-29-2020, 02:44 PM
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I am picking it up next week. It's 2021 Springdale 302FWRK. I understand dry weights aren't what to go by.
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07-29-2020, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kebees42
I am picking it up next week. It's 2021 Springdale 302FWRK. I understand dry weights aren't what to go by.
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The gvw of that trailer is 10,326. At 20% pin that's 2065lbs. Just keep that in mind as you make plans. Here's the link for the trailer;
https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...k-fifth-wheel/
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2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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07-29-2020, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by sourdough
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We won't have much weight in the truck. Hitch that weighs 221# and the 2 of us and 2 dogs at 20# each. So I think we will be good. We only haul necessary stuff in RV.
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07-29-2020, 04:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kebees42
Ok I will do it soon. I just traded campers and don't pick it up until next week. I seen the first post and it scared me for a bit. The camper we are getting is a bit bigger than I set out for but I think I'll be ok. It will be 1500# pin weight and 8500 dry weight. I'm switching from tt to fifth wheel. My tt was around 7000 # and we took a 300 mile trip and I could hardly tell it was back there. I averaged 10.3 mpg on that trip.
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Keystone website ( https://www.keystonerv.com/fifth-whe...k-fifth-wheel/) lists the delivery weight as 8951, carrying capacity 1369 so fully loaded 10,320 lbs. Pin weight @ 20% = 2,064 lbs.
With 3,070 you should be in good shape.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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07-30-2020, 08:02 AM
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Ram 2500
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Originally Posted by grey ghost
I'm really interested in the 2020 Ram 2500 6.7l Big Horn but I'm a bit worried about the max pay load. I've looked online at 4x2 and 4x4 8' beds and short beds but everything I read tells me the pay load just isn't enough to haul what I want to haul. I need to hear from people that have one and know what they are talking about, not a salesman!! I'm looking at a Forestriver Cedarcreek Silverback 31lk or the 33lk. Hitch weiight varies between the 31=2067 and the 33=2435. I know the 2500 4x2 will pull it, it's just the payload that has me worried a bit. HELP
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WE own a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Big Horn 6.7 Cummins crew cab 8 foot bed. It has been fully deleted and Air Lift suspension installed. We pull a 2010 Raptor MB300 35' toy hauler that we regularly overload. WE pull everything well hills usually not requiring a shift down of our six speed auto. Get 30+ mpg empty and 14.7 averages pulling the trailer. Can get over 18 if we stay at 55 mph.
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07-30-2020, 08:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by grey ghost
I'm really interested in the 2020 Ram 2500 6.7l Big Horn but I'm a bit worried about the max pay load. I've looked online at 4x2 and 4x4 8' beds and short beds but everything I read tells me the pay load just isn't enough to haul what I want to haul. I need to hear from people that have one and know what they are talking about, not a salesman!! I'm looking at a Forestriver Cedarcreek Silverback 31lk or the 33lk. Hitch weiight varies between the 31=2067 and the 33=2435. I know the 2500 4x2 will pull it, it's just the payload that has me worried a bit. HELP
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Forest River lists the 31 ( https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/fifth...tion/31IK/4215) at GVW of 14,135 lbs. 20 % pin weight = 2,827 lbs.
The 33 ( https://forestriverinc.com/rvs/fifth...ion/35LFT/4919) GVW at 16,050 lbs. 20% pin weight would be 3,210.
Both are too much trailer for a 3/4 ton truck IMHO.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
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07-30-2020, 08:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frosty46
WE own a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 Big Horn 6.7 Cummins crew cab 8 foot bed. It has been fully deleted and Air Lift suspension installed. We pull a 2010 Raptor MB300 35' toy hauler that we regularly overload. WE pull everything well hills usually not requiring a shift down of our six speed auto. Get 30+ mpg empty and 14.7 averages pulling the trailer. Can get over 18 if we stay at 55 mph.
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What I can find on the 2010 model from https://www.rvusa.com/rv-guide/2010-...n-300mp-tr8566 :
Dry Weight 11,246 lbs.Payload Capacity 3,144 lbs. so GVW of 14,500 lbs so 20% pin weight of 2,900 lbs. What's the payload capacity for truck? I'm guessing that you are seriously overweight considering that you state "that we regularly overload."
The air bags weight come off your payload and do not increase it. Your mpg claims I would think are the highest I've ever seen as well.
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2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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07-30-2020, 09:37 AM
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https://www.whitesidecars.com/vehicl...B%204WD/976496
I found this one the other day. Dealer says it has 4240 lb payload.
I love the truck. Saw it when I had my 2018 in for service.
Stay w 3500 if you can.
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