Ford/GM Truck article

[KanTC]

The article below is for information purposes ->not to spark a debate on trucks/brands<- please & thank you!

It's an example of how the listed "maximum payload" numbers in the truck literature/brochures, can be very confusing
(& misleading) when taken at face value. How often do we read on this forum: "Check your load/payload stickers"...?

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs...cid=autos_5916

Terri, the Chevy co-pilot

[BulletOwner1]

I read that article also and the only thing I can say is, "Pay attention to the stickers and go weight your equipment! Don't guess your weight!!!!" Don't take the salesman's (truck or RV) word for it.

[Hansel]

I read the article, and it's all BS in my book.

It's like politics, you can't believe any of it.

[bsmith0404]

Just goes to show how stupid the whole who's better debate has gotten. I don't know anyone who chose one truck over the other based on one or two hundred pounds of payload capacity. If it comes down to that, I guess I need to go on a diet so I can carry another 25-30 lbs in the truck as well. What's next, donut spares on the super duty?

[chuckster57]

You only have to tow 1extra pound, or have 1more hp to claim "the most"...how many people do you know that have to have the biggest, longest, fastest..to be happy?

I am happy that I can even go camping.

So I'll keep my 235 hp mechanical diesel truck and tow just 30' of trailer. Me, mama the 3 cats and 1dog are happy.

[Hansel]

Originally Posted by bsmith0404

Just goes to show how stupid the whole who's better debate has gotten. I don't know anyone who chose one truck over the other based on one or two hundred pounds of payload capacity. If it comes down to that, I guess I need to go on a diet so I can carry another 25-30 lbs in the truck as well. What's next, donut spares on the super duty?

Well said

A donut for a spare now that would be funny, and if I can get down too the weight I was 10yrs ago, I can carry an extra 80lbs. but I have started the process of trying too take some of it off

[lightning79]

Originally Posted by chuckster57

You only have to tow 1extra pound, or have 1more hp to claim "the most"...how many people do you know that have to have the biggest, longest, fastest..to be happy?

I am happy that I can even go camping.

So I'll keep my 235 hp mechanical diesel truck and tow just 30' of trailer. Me, mama the 3 cats and 1dog are happy.

Extremely well said, I agree. I know lots of people who need to impress others with what they have or with what people they know have.

You know, with all the awful plane crashes this summer, and the ongoing horrible violence in the Middle East, I think there are lots of people who need to step back from the materialism and just appreciate what we have, whether it's a tent to camp in or a big trailer.

Kevin

[GunDoc]

My buddy just bought a brand new Ford F250 Lariat Crew Cab 6.7 Power Stroke to pull his 27’ Denali. He traded an older Dodge Ram 1500 with about 1100 lbs of payload. I checked out his new truck the other day and noticed that according to his tire loading label (yellow sticker) his max payload is only 1762 lbs. I was shocked! My 2014 GMC 1500 Crew Cab has a max payload of 1580 (yellow sticker) a difference of 182 lbs… My truck has pretty much every option you can get, so its payload is less than a stripped down version. I would have thought an F250 with a Power Stroke would have been rated much higher than it was.

[superdog404]

That doesn't make any sense. We just bought a new 2014 Ford F350 Extended cab srw diesel 6.7L and the tires are rated at 3640 at 80 pounds. They are on 18 inch wheels.

[GunDoc]

I thought it strange, too. I have another buddy with a 2012 F250 and his payload is over 2000lbs. One other guy I know just ordered a new F350 King Ranch and said you have to order the upgraded suspension to get the higher payload. I saw the yellow sticker myself 1762 LBS at first I thought i read it wrong and it was Kilos, but, nope it was sure enough pounds.

[JRTJH]

It may seem strange, but the 2013 F250 XLT supercab long bed has a payload of 2747 pounds. That's with the 6.2L gas engine. Add the diesel (850 lbs), crew cab (200 lbs), Lariat options (250 lbs) and you reduce that payload by another 1300 pounds. That makes the "standard" payload of the Lariat crew cab long bed about 2400 pounds. By the time you add the "other stuff" that comes from the factory, it's not suprising that the payload of a 3/4 ton diesel truck isn't much different than a "beefy" (not Heavy Duty) half ton.

That's one of the reasons I squint and frown when I read a post about towing a "40 footer" with a 3/4 ton truck. Especially when the poster brags about how good it tows and how steady it is on the road.

Most 3/4 ton diesels have a payload about the same as a "beefy half ton" and many have payloads "LESS" than a F150 HD model.

I know, I know, suprising, but unfortunately it's a part of the marketing hype.

My BIL has an older GMC diesel dually. His GVW is 9800 lbs. So, as much as has been "added" to GVW's (mine is 10,000 lbs), we've also added "creature comforts" and engines to absorb all the advances in suspension and we're actually (in many situations) able to carry less with the smaller payload.

The tire loading label (yellow payload sticker) does have tire loading information on it, but the payload that's listed isn't limited to the tire information, rather it's related to vehicle weight as it compares to the vehicle GVW giving the "payload". Whether the vehicle is equipped with 17", 18" or 20" wheel/tire combinations, the payload listed on that yellow sticker would be essentially the same (minus the weight of the tire/wheel assemblies). My tires are exactly the same Michelin 275 70R18 LRE tires that are installed on the F350.