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01-16-2019, 08:23 PM
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Cold weather additives
As winter drags on, I was just wondering what additives do you run in your truck, if any.
I have a 2017 Ram with a 6.7, and I don't run anything in mine as of yet. Just wanting some feedback. Thanks
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01-16-2019, 08:32 PM
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Nothing. 2013 ram. Change oil as required, buy fuel from a clean,busy place.
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01-17-2019, 04:10 AM
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Nothing in the 6.7 or the 7.3. Over 250 K miles on the 7.3 and over 180 K on the 6.7.
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01-17-2019, 04:18 AM
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I run Diesel Kleen in mine as a lubricant and Cetane booster because the diesel in Texas is 5% up to 20% corn and it help...
Not usually cold enough to need anti-gel additives
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01-17-2019, 06:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Javi
I run Diesel Kleen in mine as a lubricant and Cetane booster because the diesel in Texas is 5% up to 20% corn and it help...
Not usually cold enough to need anti-gel additives
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Bio diesel is not corn, but more likely recycled cooking oil or something greasy.
Diesel Kleen has a winter additive with cetane lubricity & an anti gel if you think you need/want something, it won't hurt the engine & the cetane boost might help your mileage.
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01-17-2019, 07:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by travelin texans
Bio diesel is not corn, but more likely recycled cooking oil or something greasy.
Diesel Kleen has a winter additive with cetane lubricity & an anti gel if you think you need/want something, it won't hurt the engine & the cetane boost might help your mileage.
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What ever it is made from I don't like it at all, and don't like the results of running the B20 at all. However the idiot's in Austin have decided that I must run at least B5 so I use the Diesel Kleen supplement and can see and hear a difference if I miss a fillup.
No need for the anti-gel in central Texas.
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01-17-2019, 07:33 AM
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Live in Idaho..cold winters..
Have never used any additive specifically for the cold weather.. I do like to run stanadyne in the fuel tank when towing the 5er.
It adds a little bit of extra lubrication to the fuel pump...otherwise stock 2007 GMC duramax ruining delo 400 Dino oil since new..
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01-17-2019, 07:35 AM
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I think you're both right......
Most cooking oil is made from corn, soy or canola (with some peanuts thrown in for good measure). LARD is still used in some places, but typically it's "healthy fried food boiled in low fat oil produced by America's farmers"..... YMMV
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2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
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01-18-2019, 02:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JRTJH
I think you're both right......
Most cooking oil is made from corn, soy or canola (with some peanuts thrown in for good measure). LARD is still used in some places, but typically it's "healthy fried food boiled in low fat oil produced by America's farmers"..... YMMV
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Always amuses me how people in Costco or high end grocers have a bottle of non-animal fat cooking oil in the cart and they are buying prime rib or wagyu beef, paying a huge premium to get extra fat.
But I digress, to the OP's question. I use diesel kleen myself and I'm not an additive or "snake oil/mechanic in a can" user. YMMV
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01-17-2019, 08:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Javi
What ever it is made from I don't like it at all, and don't like the results of running the B20 at all. However the idiot's in Austin have decided that I must run at least B5 so I use the Diesel Kleen supplement and can see and hear a difference if I miss a fillup.
No need for the anti-gel in central Texas.
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I've been using biodiesel in my trucks for years with no issues. Even biodiesel levels below 1 percent can provide up to a 65 percent increase in lubricity in distillate fuels. And it has a higher cetane value (51 min vs 40 min for mineral diesel).
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01-17-2019, 11:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badbart56
I've been using biodiesel in my trucks for years with no issues. Even biodiesel levels below 1 percent can provide up to a 65 percent increase in lubricity in distillate fuels. And it has a higher cetane value (51 min vs 40 min for mineral diesel).
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B20 biodiesel has an 8-9% lower energy content by volume than petroleum based #2 diesel. And B5 has 1-2% lower energy content. But as you stated biodiesel does have a higher Cetane level and also a higher lubricity than straight ULS #2
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01-17-2019, 06:55 AM
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Hot Shots Secret Everyday Diesel Treatment since new. They have winter supplement as well..
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01-17-2019, 07:49 AM
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Live in Canada..cold winters..
Have used stanadyne in the fuel tank summer and winter since truck was new. Also used in my previous Duramax for 10 years.
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01-17-2019, 04:37 PM
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I finally remembered to add some anti-gel yesterday since it was 0 and I knew the truck was going to sit outside all day while I was at work. The station I get diesel from does not have mixed in winter, they still just have #2 and #1 in separate fuel pumps. So, figured it may be a good idea. Otherwise, if we are traveling out west I will add cetane booster when I fill up after the interesting problem in Yellowstone the last time we were there.
BTW - Javi, don’t visit MN if you don’t like biodiesel. They mandated B20 for all diesel about 5 years ago. The stuff is junk when compared to the pre-B20 days. Our truck gets better mileage towing out west where there is no mandate.
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01-18-2019, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vampress_me
I finally remembered to add some anti-gel yesterday since it was 0 and I knew the truck was going to sit outside all day while I was at work. The station I get diesel from does not have mixed in winter, they still just have #2 and #1 in separate fuel pumps. So, figured it may be a good idea. Otherwise, if we are traveling out west I will add cetane booster when I fill up after the interesting problem in Yellowstone the last time we were there.
BTW - Javi, don’t visit MN if you don’t like biodiesel. They mandated B20 for all diesel about 5 years ago. The stuff is junk when compared to the pre-B20 days. Our truck gets better mileage towing out west where there is no mandate.
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As cold as it's going to be the next few days I'd go fill up with #1.
Several years ago a guy at work was having problem gelling & kept dumping 911 in still gelled, I told to fill it with #1 till it warmed up.
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01-25-2019, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 77cruiser
As cold as it's going to be the next few days I'd go fill up with #1.
Several years ago a guy at work was having problem gelling & kept dumping 911 in still gelled, I told to fill it with #1 till it warmed up.
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I have always been told to never run with pure #1 in a tank. That it didn’t have enough lubricity (lubricants) or was “too refined” to run in a diesel engine. So, I’ve never done it, especially with #1 being more expensive than #2. I’ve never had a problem running #2 and an anti-gel additive, even with temps during the day getting up to -20 and the truck sitting all day outside. So, what don’t I know, I’m confused?
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2019 F-350 diesel 4x4 CC LB DRW, not the mom taxi anymore...
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01-25-2019, 04:37 PM
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I don't think there's anything about diesel fuel and cold weather that you're missing, Lynette. For almost all of us (there are always exceptions) the fuel available in the area where we're using it is "blended" for the temperatures typically experienced in those areas. Places where it never even gets frost on the pumpkin, diesel isn't "blended" with the same additives as diesel available in Minot, ND.
Where most (IMHO) get into "trouble" is having a truck that seldom gets used, so there's "summer blend" in the tank that was filled in August and gelled in January or the "thrifty soul" with a 80 gallon "in bed tank" in addition to the 40 gallon "truck tank"... Fill up in Houston, drive to St Louis, park overnight at Motel 6 (in -15F temps) and get up the next morning to a truck that won't start.
Those who buy fuel weekly (or even monthly) and keep their fuel filter changes "up to date" usually don't have a problem with gelled fuel.
I've got two 5 gallon "yellow jugs" of diesel for my tractor that sit in the pole barn. It was -25F last week and my tractor started without a problem and both of those "yellow jugs" were "normal diesel". I don't think that would be the situation if those jugs had been "left over from July's bush hogging diesel run.
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01-24-2019, 10:11 AM
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change oil as required. twice a year...more?
some say a thinner oil for cold starts in the winter.
but how do you drive? lots of short hops? long hrs on the open rd? idling a LOT?
avg temp where you plan to be? over night lows?time of day you plan on starting the motor (if every - most days thing).
if cold enough the fuel mix changes to a colder weather mix, (less gelling), so no worry's there.
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01-24-2019, 11:13 AM
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Other than not having summer fuel in it when it gets cold I don't use additives. 2008 Duramax. I had some medical problems starting in October that ran through December. My wife used the truck in December - not cheap to get your gelling engine cleaned up.
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01-25-2019, 02:55 PM
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Plenty cold here in NE but I use no additives until below zero. 5w-40 valvoline full synthetic year around. Always starts never had a problem. Fuel mileage is always down in winter due to “cut” fuel. 2-3 mpg. Not a daily driver either.
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