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08-09-2016, 04:39 AM
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Black And Grey Water Valves
I've got a brand-new Bullet 248RKS. Keystone was kind enough to put black handles on BOTH the black and grey water valves. Could anyone help me out and tell me which one is which before I find out the hard way?
(Of course, I wouldn't really find out the hard way because I'd put water and food coloring down my black tank to test it, but I figured I'd ask here first!)
Mike
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08-09-2016, 04:59 AM
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Site Team
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The black tank is directly under the toilet.
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08-09-2016, 05:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hankpage
The black tank is directly under the toilet.
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The attached image of the discharge is under the bathroom. I have two grey water tanks, one for the bathroom and one for the kitchen. These valves are side-by-side. One is grey, one is black, but they are not labeled.
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08-09-2016, 07:32 AM
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Tank Valve
The black tank valve is bigger. Hope you have better luck than I did. Just completed our maiden voyage on our 248RKS. I was dumb. I tested everything before we left except for the dump valve. Yep, black valve NG. I have heard others that for defective valves right from the factory. You would think they would check them. Very happy with the unit. Just need more practice backing up. We downsized from a Class A.
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08-09-2016, 08:07 AM
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NavyMustang,
Several thoughts that might "help you decide":
First, from looking at your floorplan, it seems that the toilet is "further forward" when compared to the bathroom sink. Since the toilet is positioned "directly over" the black tank, that would mean the "most forward handle" would probably control the valve on the black tank. There is a "third dump valve", probably located further aft, either under or behind the slide for the kitchen gray tank.
Second, every trailer owner should have a "clear sewer connector" (similar to the one in this picture) so there is "absolutely no doubt" as to which tank is being dumped and also to "visualize" the status of the dump, the contents and the "cleanliness" as a result of flushing the tank. This type, by CAMCO, is sold on Amazon for about $6. The price will be "earned by usefulness" many times over.
Hope this helps with your dilemma. If not, once you get the "clear sewer connector" you'll "remove any doubt"........
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08-09-2016, 02:24 PM
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+1 for JRTJH
Safe way to check which is which at home... McCormack's food coloring.
Green in tank "A".
Red in tank "B".
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08-09-2016, 02:26 PM
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I'd go ahead and do the test. Better safe than sorry. Recently I was helping a first timer set up and when he removed the cap the water poured out. It was not immediately evident that both valves were open but they were. Thankfully only clean water was in the tanks from the PDI earlier that day. Better to spill some clean water on the driveway now and know for sure when you dump in the CH. Ditto on the clear piece for your sewer hose. It's the only way to make sure your black tank flush is done well.
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08-10-2016, 06:22 AM
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Thanks to all for your replies! Many good thoughts, but I ended up going with the food-coloring test just to be sure. As this is a brand-new TT, the blackwater system had never been used and I didn't have anything to worry about in putting a bit of food coloring water down the tank.
Needless to say, MY valve handles and tubes are the same exact size. I've heard others say that the blackwater valve handle was bigger, but not in my case.
Turns out that JRTJH is correct. The blackwater valve IS the furthest forward. I was aware that the furthest aft handle was for the kitchen sink grey water, but Keystone should really consider grey colored handles though on the valves!
And thank you malabarbob for suggesting I check the valve operation. It seems to be working. We'll see if it's opening up and draining all the way this weekend though on the inaugural trip!
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08-29-2020, 02:47 PM
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Our valves look like this too (first post by Navy Mustang) How do you tell if the extended position is closed or open? The valves twist, turn around, are they broken? They are very floppy too.
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08-29-2020, 03:15 PM
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soaz, this thread is 4 years old so might not get any reply. I saw you started another thread so that should be where you get your replies.
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