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01-27-2012, 03:49 AM
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I have noticed with a generic flow regulator installed that my water flow is significantly reduced.
Here is a regulator that keeps the pressure in check but allows for maximum water flow.
http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...aign=partsfeed
Does anyone use this type of regulator?
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01-27-2012, 09:10 AM
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This site has a Watts adjustable regulator with stainless steel parts and a gauge for around $90. That's pretty cheap insurance. Forget the cheapie Camco screw-om regulators.
http://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/Pr...Regulators.htm
That said, water pressure that is stong enough to blow a hose, but leaves the trailer plumbing unharmed is really a stretch. So is sun exposure, weak connections at the ends, etc. The problem occurs with multiple hoses and that many different hoses with the same defect is even more of a stretch.
The most likely possibility that I can think of other than rodents chewing on the hose would be running it across a gravel driveway and then driving across it.
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01-27-2012, 09:12 AM
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yes, we use the one Bob referenced, purchased from the same online company. Very quick service, quality product. IMHO better than the one from PPL. The watts regulator series N55B rated for something like 10gpm or more and has a fluid filled guage and an easier adjustment knob and all external parts are either brass or SS. Works great, much better than the "pressure" regulators that are really only a "flow" restrictor.
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01-27-2012, 09:28 AM
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Hoses
Geo--- Do we have a doodlebugger in the house?
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01-27-2012, 10:07 AM
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I wonder if the simple answer is the hoses are just defective, I've been using the same white hoses bought a CW for years without a problem and I do use a regulator.
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01-27-2012, 11:46 AM
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I have heard squirrels may bite into hose for water.
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01-27-2012, 11:48 AM
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Howdy All;
have you also noticed that the wall thickness of the 'white' hoses is about 1/2 the thickness of a regular garden variety hose ? The quick crimp on repair kits seldome work as the ID (inside Diameter), is greater than the garden hoses.
Small wonder they fail if extra pressure is applied..... On the up side they fail BEFORE the interior plumbing will...
hankaye
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01-27-2012, 05:27 PM
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I been using the same white hoses from WalMart now for two years from Florida to California and back tp georgia without an incident. At Fort McAllister State Park in Georgia I found that the squirrels and Racoons would bite holes in the water hoses unless we left a bucket or coffee can full of water out for them all the time. These guys are very resourceful and know how to get a drink.
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01-28-2012, 04:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruffus
I been using the same white hoses from WalMart now for two years from Florida to California and back tp georgia without an incident. At Fort McAllister State Park in Georgia I found that the squirrels and Racoons would bite holes in the water hoses unless we left a bucket or coffee can full of water out for them all the time. These guys are very resourceful and know how to get a drink.
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That makes sense.
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01-28-2012, 06:29 AM
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Regarding your pin hole problem
I am a retired sailor. With ships, and yachts, after coming alongside a jetty, we drag our power cables and water hoses to their shore hook ups. When we drag those cables and hoses it is generally across a cement or gravel surface and that causes wear and tear on the coverings. To counter that we used to take old fire hoses and thread our water hoses and power cables thru them and in doing so we protected them.
All of this to say it may be that the pin holes are created by the way that they are being dragged in/out of the camper and then across the surface. Covering them is an easy way to fix that.
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01-28-2012, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Landry
This site has a Watts adjustable regulator with stainless steel parts and a gauge for around $90. That's pretty cheap insurance. Forget the cheapie Camco screw-om regulators.
http://www.rvwaterfilterstore.com/Pr...Regulators.htm
That said, water pressure that is stong enough to blow a hose, but leaves the trailer plumbing unharmed is really a stretch. So is sun exposure, weak connections at the ends, etc. The problem occurs with multiple hoses and that many different hoses with the same defect is even more of a stretch.
The most likely possibility that I can think of other than rodents chewing on the hose would be running it across a gravel driveway and then driving across it.
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Bob with this regulator do you still get a good flow rate? I just hate those "trickle" showers.
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01-28-2012, 12:31 PM
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If the water pressure is high enough to begin with. One of the parks in Arkansas that we go to has low pressure, so if I get slow flow, I know I don't ned the regulator and simply take it off and put it away.
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01-29-2012, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeMedic
Bob with this regulator do you still get a good flow rate? I just hate those "trickle" showers.
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I have one of the regulators from this website, the biggest one they sell, it is rated at 10 gallons/min, so it doesn't affect the flow rate at all for a given pressure. The smaller one is rated at something like 5 gallons/minute.
Many of the cheap CW units aren't a true pressure regulator, they are simply a flow regulator.
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01-29-2012, 06:54 PM
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Howdy all;
Been my experience that pressure is a by-product of restriction.
Pumps (water systems), create flow. the first restriction (generaly the outlet), downstream creates the inital pressure.
Then each successive restriction creates more pressure and restricts flow at the same time.
Back in the 1800's when the miners' wanted water pressure to blast away a hillside to get to the gold or whatever, they used moniters;
http://museumca.org/goldrush/fever19-hy.html
The water was pressurized by a series of reductions in the pipeing that delevered the water from the source to the nozzel.
In some of the mountianious areas the act of collecting the water in a 20 or so inch pipe to send it in the direction of the hillside, then reduced to say 18 inches untill the water comes shooting out of a 1 1/2 inch nozzel.
Given distance, and amount water that would be "upstream (hill)", of the nozzel and the weight of um-teen (scientific measure), gallons @ 8.3 or so lbs./gal. that' s a lot of pressure.
So, by increasing flow, you are de-creassing pressure. One of natures neat juxtaposition thingys (another extreamly accurate term).
hankaye
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03-01-2012, 07:07 AM
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Hose pin Hole
If the hose gets the hole in about the same area everytime maybe theres a screw or staple protruding ware you store it.
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03-01-2012, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michael
If the hose gets the hole in about the same area everytime maybe theres a screw or staple protruding ware you store it.
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No, I store it in a large rubber maid container with a lid on it. Nice thought though.
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03-01-2012, 02:38 PM
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Holes
This is a real weird one... I honestly am using some of the same white hoses that we purchased back in 04' from our first TT. Have you happened to forget an anniversary or birthday or something.....found any stray pins laying around the unit.....
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03-02-2012, 04:51 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jje1960
This is a real weird one... I honestly am using some of the same white hoses that we purchased back in 04' from our first TT. Have you happened to forget an anniversary or birthday or something.....found any stray pins laying around the unit.....
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I am thinking critters looking for water is the best explanation. I will attempt from now on to keep the hose off the ground and see if they last any longer.
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03-02-2012, 04:58 AM
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i am NOT CAMPING WERE U GUY GO CAMPING U HAVE RAT'S AM FROM BUFFALO WE HAVE SNOW GOOD LUCK LOL
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03-02-2012, 07:03 AM
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Has your campground maintenance crew been around with their trusty weed-wackers????? I have had a few sewer hoses done in this way and lawnmowers just seem to shorten cable tv connections.
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