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08-03-2013, 06:00 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Utah
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weight question
Good morning! My family and I are new to travel trailers and I've been able to answer just about all of my questions through searches and phone calls although I have 1 remaining- short of heading off to a scale, is the claimed tongue weight that of the TT's dry weight or the TT's GVWR? I've heard both and using a % seems very subjective and the # seems to change between who you ask...
Hideout 26BHSWE- claimed- 6340 dry, 7700 GVWR, 800 tongue. I'm guessing it's based on the dry weight and closer to 1000 loaded...
Thanks in advance!
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08-03-2013, 06:11 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: PA
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I always assume my tongue wgt should be between 13 and 15 percent of actual wgt...with our stuff...scale wgt. Dry wgt and gross wgt are important to know but I don't think I will ever have my trailer at either.
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08-03-2013, 06:13 AM
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Location: Woodstock, GA
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The tongue weight is dry. That is how they get the 800. ?% times the 6300 dry weight.
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08-03-2013, 07:38 AM
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Not only is it dry, it's *very* dry. Like no propane or battery. As chris199 said, it should be between 13 and 15 percent of whatever the trailer *really* weighs.
I've seen some advertised tongue weights that are under 10% of the trailer's dry weight, which isn't appropriate for towing.
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08-04-2013, 02:42 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Deltona, FL
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I would believe the manufacturer that the tongue weight of 800# is accurate. As noted in a previous post, full propane tanks will add another 40-60 pounds. If you load up the pass through storage this adds the weight of whatever you put in there. If you fill the water tank and it is located ahead of the axles in the trailer, this will also add tongue weight. Lastly, you will probably use a weight distribution hitch which will add another 100# or so. Just make sure you properly adjust the hitch so that the tow vehicle sits at approximately the same level when the trailer is hooked up or not hooked up.
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08-04-2013, 03:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Taylors, SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akacliph
Good morning! My family and I are new to travel trailers and I've been able to answer just about all of my questions through searches and phone calls although I have 1 remaining- short of heading off to a scale, is the claimed tongue weight that of the TT's dry weight or the TT's GVWR? I've heard both and using a % seems very subjective and the # seems to change between who you ask...
Hideout 26BHSWE- claimed- 6340 dry, 7700 GVWR, 800 tongue. I'm guessing it's based on the dry weight and closer to 1000 loaded...
Thanks in advance!
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Your trailer's dry weight includes the weight of the fully serviced propane system, as installed. That change was made part of the 2008 regulation updates.
The pin/hitch weight set by the vehicle manufacturer is a static weight that cannot be changed once it's been set by the vehicle manufacturer because it's used -by regulations - for other weight calculations. However, in reality it's going to change just about every time you load-up for a trip. Even using a percentage may not often be very accurate because of the way each load is arraigned in the trailer.
Here is an example of how the pin weight applies to other calculations. "The manufacturer's pin weight, when added to the vehicles GAWR (s) must equal or exceed the vehicle's GVWR".
CW
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08-04-2013, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Colorado Mountains
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chris199
I always assume my tongue wgt should be between 13 and 15 percent of actual wgt...with our stuff...scale wgt. Dry wgt and gross wgt are important to know but I don't think I will ever have my trailer at either.
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I believe THIS is the correct answer. If you do not know actual loaded weight use 13 to 15% of the TT GVWR.
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