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Old 09-04-2020, 10:26 AM   #1
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Keystone Furrion antenna

As some of you might recalled my Furrion antenna came off my 2019 Cougar fifth wheel, and was replaced under warranty.
Now i have a Safety Recall notice 20V-398 So i called the Keystone Company and they said the recall was across the board and will be replacing it again FREE they will replace it with a Winegard dome antenna. Finally great news.
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Old 09-04-2020, 01:17 PM   #2
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Is it a different antenna from the TT's? I have seen the recall for 5ers but not the TT's.
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Old 09-04-2020, 01:19 PM   #3
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this was on my 5 wheeler is a bat wing, and it will be replaced with winegard dome. if you look on this forum under recall you will see the recall listed.
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Old 09-04-2020, 01:25 PM   #4
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It's strange. Furrion only shows one antenna on their website and it looks like mine. It appears that they are recalling them when installed on a 5'er but not on a TT.
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Old 09-08-2020, 04:58 PM   #5
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Has anybody had the new Winegard antenna installed yet? Does it work any better than the Furrion?
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Old 09-08-2020, 05:53 PM   #6
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If the specs are anywhere accurate between the Furion Omni and the Winegard 360 Omni the Winegard will outperform the Furion

The higher gain and considerably lower noise figure spec of the Winegard would be the better antenna...

And better than either of these antennas is the Sensar IV antenna with direction signal strength indicator
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Old 09-08-2020, 07:32 PM   #7
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The dealer I bought my Cougar from just sent me an email about the recall and offered to replace the antenna but since I am 1,000+ mile away do I opted to just have them ship me the new antenna and install myself... Here is the install instructions the sent me...
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Old 09-09-2020, 02:31 AM   #8
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I just installed this myself Monday. Very easy and works well with no issues. The dealer ordered parts at no cost even though I do not have a 5’er, and it was covered under the recall. Kit comes with everything needed except the screws.
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Old 09-09-2020, 04:14 AM   #9
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If the specs are anywhere accurate between the Furion Omni and the Winegard 360 Omni the Winegard will outperform the Furion

The higher gain and considerably lower noise figure spec of the Winegard would be the better antenna...

And better than either of these antennas is the Sensar IV antenna with direction signal strength indicator

I had a Sensar on my old Cougar (it was OEM antenna back in 2002) and it worked OK for OTA tv signals but I forgot to crank it down a few times. The bottom part was broken and the thing had to be turned with vise grips so the antenna was replaced by a King Jack 0A8500 direction OTA tv antenna. I opted not to get the signal indicator as I rely on a phone app to tell me which direction to point. Transmitters are often in somewhat different directions coming from the same general direction and pointing is a bit of a compromise. The King Jack works about as well as the Sensar. As I recall my Sensar had an addition piece added to it for HD digital signals. I would never use an omni directional antenna if I were truly interested in good OTA tv.


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Camped two weeks ago in the same spot we've used for years.. with the directional Sensar I could get 22 stations depending on the weather... Couldn't get a single station with the 360... I'm looking for alternatives but if I have to spend $400-$500 for a workable replacement that will buy a SAT system.. and I can watch FOX NEWS..
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Hi, my dealer just installed the new Winegard antenna on my 2019 Cougar RLS315 under the recall. This is now the 3rd antenna installed by them. The first 2 were Furrion bat wings (junk). The Wingard seems to pick up a few more channels in our drive way then the Furrion did. I'm happy with it and the dealer installed it while I waited, 45 minutes. Very surprised and happy Keystoned finally stepped up to the bat.
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Old 09-09-2020, 07:40 AM   #12
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No experience with the Furrion, but the Winegard seems to work quite well - better than our previous old-school crank-up.
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Hi, my dealer just installed the new Winegard antenna on my 2019 Cougar RLS315 under the recall. This is now the 3rd antenna installed by them. The first 2 were Furrion bat wings (junk). The Wingard seems to pick up a few more channels in our drive way then the Furrion did. I'm happy with it and the dealer installed it while I waited, 45 minutes. Very surprised and happy Keystoned finally stepped up to the bat.
Did the dealer replace your Furrion antenna with Winegard Air 360+? Does the new antenna work with the Key system? Does the WiFi/LTE plug into the existing Furrion router?
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Old 09-09-2020, 11:34 AM   #14
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Yes replaced with the Winegard 360 and no problems with the Key system yet. And not a clue about the wifi LTE plug, I don't have that. But all in all it seems better plus no wings so it should stay grounded.
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As some of you might recalled my Furrion antenna came off my 2019 Cougar fifth wheel, and was replaced under warranty.
Now i have a Safety Recall notice 20V-398 So i called the Keystone Company and they said the recall was across the board and will be replacing it again FREE they will replace it with a Winegard dome antenna. Finally great news.
Interesting to read this. My TT has the Furrion and on a different thread here I inquired to an OP who's 2021 came with the Winegard instead (with Key-TV). I promptly ordered a Winegard 360+ from Amazon ($117) to get rid of that Furrion. I had previously heard of problems with them and you have further confirmed it. Except there is no way I'll allow our CW to touch my trailer. I'd rather spend the money and do it myself than have them change it out under a recall. But as I read further here, only 5th wheels are being recalled. The Winegard arrives tomorrow... I know what I'm doing this weekend.
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Old 09-09-2020, 12:32 PM   #16
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Yes replaced with the Winegard 360 and no problems with the Key system yet. And not a clue about the wifi LTE plug, I don't have that. But all in all it seems better plus no wings so it should stay grounded.
I asked if your replacement is a Air 360+. An Air 360 doesn't have the 4G/LTE & WiFi capabilities.
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95% of the places we RV at the OTA is useless. We use direct tv with an HD dedicated receiver. The portable auto seek antenna doesn’t do HD.. only SD bit it’s not an issue for us.

With the 101 sat bird dropping SD stations soon many of the HD stations will be moved to the 101 bird and we will still be able to use our portable dish.

In retrospect I should have spent about $125 and bought the Triiood stand and HD LNB antenna. Setup is easy and finding the 103 and 101 are easy.

Dish also is nice and from what I’ve read much more RV friendly
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Did the dealer replace your Furrion antenna with Winegard Air 360+? Does the new antenna work with the Key system? Does the WiFi/LTE plug into the existing Furrion router?
The Winegard 360+ has its own WiFi/LTE base. The two brands are not compatible with each other.

I would imagine that Keystone would put the 360+ in since the Furrion had the WiFi/LTE ability. But... who knows.
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The Winegard 360+ has its own WiFi/LTE base. The two brands are not compatible with each other.

I would imagine that Keystone would put the 360+ in since the Furrion had the WiFi/LTE ability. But... who knows.
That's what I am trying to figure out. If the dealer is installing the 360+ and the associated equipment for 4G/LTE and WiFi. Another thing is that I already have the Furrion equipment installed for 4G/LTE and WiFi, at about $300, I bet that they won't reimburse for that.
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Is it a different antenna from the TT's? I have seen the recall for 5ers but not the TT's.
I talked to Furrion today, they determined that the problem with the top flying off the base is a Keystone factory install problem. Something about using the wrong length screws and cracking the install area. I couldn't pin the tech down on exactly what was cracking. I've lost mine twice.
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