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Old 12-31-2020, 11:10 AM   #21
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Playing the devil's advocate here, how do y'all handle neighbors (obviously not
those of you who choose to live with no neighbors) with junk cars, mowing the 'grass' thrice a year, never shoveling the walk, and letting his young niece and nephew paint his house bright blue? How about when brother Eddie comes to stay with his class A for the summer?

And therein lies the crack that HOAs seemingly fit into....for that sort of protection. I guess one would have to weigh the costs/benefits of the prospective situations.

For us we chose an area that had tight deed restrictions limiting size of house and materials it was constructed of etc. Not an HOA but enough to assure whoever built was going to put a fair sized investment into the location, and hopefully take care of it. Or, it could be like the guy right before I left that decided to pull a new pickup in with a short and what looked like FFA hog trailer near the house. Sat there all afternoon into the night. About 10pm I went over (didn't know where the driver was) and put a note under the windshield advising that this was not a hog or livestock area and the truck/trailer were not appreciated. I advised if it wasn't gone by daybreak I would confiscate both. Well, it was on my property and I also advised they were trespassing. It was gone when I went out the next morning hopefully to never return. Not really an HOA issue but rather a non HOA situation I guess.
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Old 12-31-2020, 11:23 AM   #22
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Playing the devil's advocate here, how do y'all handle neighbors (obviously not
those of you who choose to live with no neighbors) with junk cars, mowing the 'grass' thrice a year, never shoveling the walk, and letting his young niece and nephew paint his house bright blue? How about when brother Eddie comes to stay with his class A for the summer?
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Old 12-31-2020, 01:46 PM   #23
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I feel the love here for HOA's.

Interestingly, my credit union won't finance 1-ton trucks. I call BS on that one, but they say "1-tons are commercial vehicles". Guess we'll use dealer if I ever upgrade.

Taxes, plates, etc. are more - but the "potential" load you are putting on the road is more, so that I understand.

We're possibly relocating to NC in the very near future - better believe we will avoid an HOA if we can At least mine says "Denali" so they won't know the difference!
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Old 12-31-2020, 01:51 PM   #24
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I feel the love here for HOA's.

Interestingly, my credit union won't finance 1-ton trucks. I call BS on that one, but they say "1-tons are commercial vehicles".
Every truck in Ca is “commercial” and you pay weight fees based on GVWR. You could register your truck in Ca as a passenger vehicle, but if you do, you can’t put any cargo in the bed. I’ve heard even a bag of groceries without getting cited.
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Old 12-31-2020, 01:56 PM   #25
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That'd be my luck - cited for a case of beer...geez.
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Old 12-31-2020, 07:16 PM   #26
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Most towns and/or counties have zoning laws and regulations that can be used to keep the trashy neighbor in line. HOAs are just an excuse for small people to grab power.
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Old 12-31-2020, 08:57 PM   #27
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In today's email, I got a notification for a new article discussing the capability differences between the 2020 F-250 and F-350. Something that people contemplating a new tow vehicle might find useful.

That's interesting and coincides with what my brother and I had read up on before he decided on the Ford over the Chevy and Ram. We learned, engines aside, that a F250 is essentially a F350 but with lighter suspension. In the end we both bought 250's that day with the 6.2 engines (I gave up my Tundra!...).

No, they can't pull as much as the 6.7 diesel, but we don't need that and it saved us each many thousands. All good. We are both very pleased.
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Old 01-01-2021, 03:53 AM   #28
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Bill, as long as you and your brother understand that you can't haul or tow what a one-ton is capable of then you should continue to be happy.
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Old 01-01-2021, 04:39 AM   #29
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Bill, as long as you and your brother understand that you can't haul or tow what a one-ton is capable of then you should continue to be happy.
“But, but, but the salesman said that we could pull anything on anyone’s lot!”

Yes, we understand the limitations.
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HOAs are why we bought in a rural area. 27 homes each on an acre. No HOAs, no rules... Community well system.. One new home owner tried to get a the other home owners to start one. Not gonna ever happen as long as I live here...
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Old 01-01-2021, 08:20 AM   #31
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Our proposed " HOA " had 27 restrictions, only two that could be enforced my the county which were 1700 sq ft min and only one residence per lot. Bought all five lots and merged them into one lot. Now we have our home on nine acres and an HOA that got dissolved at closing. The surrounding farmers are happy as having tiny two acre lots bothered them. Most in the area are 50 to 300 acres. Life is good for all involved!
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That's interesting and coincides with what my brother and I had read up on before he decided on the Ford over the Chevy and Ram. We learned, engines aside, that a F250 is essentially a F350 but with lighter suspension. In the end we both bought 250's that day with the 6.2 engines (I gave up my Tundra!...).

No, they can't pull as much as the 6.7 diesel, but we don't need that and it saved us each many thousands. All good. We are both very pleased.
You could also say that F250 is the same as the F150 with heavier suspension & very little more payload, but neither equal a F350 when it comes to hauling a 5th wheel.
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Playing the devil's advocate here, how do y'all handle neighbors (obviously not
those of you who choose to live with no neighbors) with junk cars, mowing the 'grass' thrice a year, never shoveling the walk, and letting his young niece and nephew paint his house bright blue? How about when brother Eddie comes to stay with his class A for the summer?
And that is the issue. I didn't pay good money to live in the ghetto. I don't mind rules if they are reasonable and enforced fairly.
Behind the house for RV's and boats is fine with me. But in the driveway or on the street is no for me. Carports on front of the garage is no for me. Converting the garage to a room is a no, unless you build another garage. I'm thinking our little subdivision was 1700 sq ft minimum. Betty says one side of one street in the older section may be smaller. We have everything from the zero lot line homes in the old section to about 3500 sq ft. We're about in the middle at 2900 sq ft. Our 2 lots are 90x180 each. I think the others are pretty close.
Our first questionable issue was a guy that built a backyard carport for a 35ft offshore boat with a T-top. So it was pretty tall. There was a bit of discussion among some neighbors about that. He moved and the new owners had a 5th wheel so it worked for them. Then a few more backyard carports for Jeeps and such. I'm OK with it but it is against the rules.
We have discussed putting a big carport behind our house, 24x44. We talked about it again recently. I told Betty I'm not sure how much longer we'll be doing this big RV thing. Probably 5 years max. Then maybe a small Class C if anything.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Time to put the peas and cabbage on.....
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Ken off topic, but I'm curious which subdivision you've moved to . My wife and I used to live in Northview Ranch, I was President. And Vice President of the HOA for several years there. We put our house up for sale in Sept 2018, and lived in our Keystone Bullet at the campground across the highway through March of 2019. Rhat was when we hooked up and moved to Panama City Fl. I sure do miss the low humidity, but not the shoveling of the snow, and the inversion in the winter time.
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Turned out pretty good. Sam's Choice ham which is surprisingly good. Betty skipped the cast iron skillet for the cornbread. Mrs. Renfroe's Chow Chow and Steens cane syrup on the table. Nap time.
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You could also say that F250 is the same as the F150 with heavier suspension & very little more payload, but neither equal a F350 when it comes to hauling a 5th wheel.
I’m not an expert in this, I know what I’ve seen. But I have not looked under the F150 and compared it to a F250. However I wouldn’t imagine those two are as similar as the 250 and 350.
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Turned out pretty good. Sam's Choice ham which is surprisingly good. Betty skipped the cast iron skillet for the cornbread. Mrs. Renfroe's Chow Chow and Steens cane syrup on the table. Nap time.
Mrs. Renfroe's Chow Chow....now you're talkin! Better get a few winks before the cabbage kicks in....
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Mrs. Renfroe's Chow Chow....now you're talkin! Better get a few winks before the cabbage kicks in....
Too late! LOL
I just interupted Betty's recliner nap.
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Playing the devil's advocate here, how do y'all handle neighbors (obviously not
those of you who choose to live with no neighbors) with junk cars, mowing the 'grass' thrice a year, never shoveling the walk, and letting his young niece and nephew paint his house bright blue? How about when brother Eddie comes to stay with his class A for the summer?

1. Junk cars are considered lawn art here in the middle of nowhere.
2. What is grass? Don't need none among the cactii & rocks
3. What is a walk? No one walks in the cactii or rocks.
4. Bright blue house? No one can see a house from a public road.



Never understood why ya'll would choose to live somewhere where the somewhere told you how to live.
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I doubt seriously that ANY HOA board members, not to mention some of the tow vehicle owners, could tell you what any given vehicle would weigh or be rated at without the paperwork or know where to look on the truck & then most wouldn't know what they're looking at.
I totally agree, NO HOAs for us! Nor any CO-OP parks, been in one if those that was worse than any HOA!
A lot of hoa's do not allow work trucks meaning commercial trucks.
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