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Old 07-03-2017, 05:29 PM   #21
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Once broken in at 25,000 miles, our '16 3500 gets 12-13 towing and up to 22 empty. Wasn't near that good during break-in but with near 70 gal fuel capacity, we don't fill up but every 2-3 days when towing. Course we don't do more than 300 miles per day.
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:23 PM   #22
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12-13 towing?? I'm lucky to see 14 EMPTY with a tailwind LOL!! 10 when hooked on. Still beats my gasser-7 with/9 without the old trailer.
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:42 PM   #23
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3/4 chevy, ram or ford?

I have a 2016 F250 with the 6.2 gas engine. I am currently on a trip in Colorado where I drove from St. Louis without a trailer (just the truck). I got 14 mpg on the interstate.

Under normal small-town/country driving I get 11.

When I pull my 11,000 lbs TT I get 7 average. This is 99% flat-lander towing at 70/75 mph on the interstate.

My brother has a 5 year old Chevy 1500 with whatever gas engine. He tows a 28' toy hauler TT and never sees double-digit mileage.


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Old 07-04-2017, 02:58 AM   #24
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Last weekend real world numbers.....2016 F350 Dually, CC, 8' bed of course, 3.73 rear end, 6.7 Diesel, 4x4 (not used on the trip), and a 12,400 lb loaded bumper pull T.H. I left the house and zeroed the MPG meter. When I returned home it was reading 8.9 MPG.....so let's say 9.0 (that sounds better...right?) The trip was from just South of Knoxville, Tennessee, across I-40 and over the mountains towards Asheville, N.C., then down I-26, then over to the Charlotte, N.C. and then on down to Kershaw, S.C. The truck was parked during our outing and hooked back up and used to tow the T.H. back home, basically the same route and back to the house. 8.9 MPG and I was running 67 MPH when I could, and of course slowing down to whatever was needed to safely go through the mountains on the downhill sides. I used the Tow Haul mode and the Engine braking function the entire trip. There is the real world mileage for a 662 mile trip. Flat land trips would surely be a bit better on mileage, but this trip did have mountains to contend with.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:46 AM   #25
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My trip computer always shows very optimistic mileage, so I do a manual mileage check. Generally, 21 or a bit better, and 9-10 towing @ 60 MPH. Sometimes better depending on the wind.

For the OP, any brand should do depending on his personal preferences. I'm a Cummins guy, but like the Allison for an automatic. Get a diesel with an exhaust brake. The turbocharger will be less affected at higher elevations going uphill and the exhaust brake will better control your speed while descending...all this with better mileage than a gasser.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:01 AM   #26
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X4 on the 1 Ton - higher GVWR. Most 3/4 ton are 10,000 lbs and a 1 ton will be about 11,600 lbs (2011 and newer truck). That gives you more margin for the the contents (fuel, passengers, fifth wheel hitch and any other add-ons) of the truck and the pin weight of the trailer.

Also - it will give you some margin if you want a little heavier trailer. We upgraded this year and the advertised pin weight as about 275 lbs more than our previous trailer. Advertised dry weight on the previous trailer was 10,100 lbs and our new one is 11,530 lbs.

My truck with me in it, fuel load of fuel and fifth wheel hitch in the box is about 8100 lbs.

Best mileage I ever got on our last fifth wheel was 11.5 mpg- "flat road "towing and no head wind (65 mph). Last weekend going to Watkins Glen race track (about 110 miles one way) with a head wind was 9.3 mpg (varied from 57 to 65 mph).

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Old 07-04-2017, 09:14 AM   #27
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X4 on the 1 Ton - higher GVWR. Most 3/4 ton are 10,000 lbs and a 1 ton will be about 11,600 lbs. That gives you more margin for the the contents (fuel, passengers, fifth wheel hitch and any other add-ons) of the truck and the pin weight of the trailer.
Depends on what year they changed, My '94 1 ton has 10,000 GVWR. Look at the yellow sticker on the door pillar...
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:33 AM   #28
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Depends on what year they changed, My '94 1 ton has 10,000 GVWR. Look at the yellow sticker on the door pillar...
Edit my post - 2011 and newer - at least that is when Chevy upgraded the trucks. My previous 1 ton - 2005 Duramax/Allison was 9,900 lbs GVWR. Reason I traded in 2011.
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Old 07-04-2017, 09:44 AM   #29
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OP.....since you are just down Hwy 146 from me...all the above is correct.
I've gone through 3 trucks, two 5th wheels, and a cabover camper in 6 years.
GMC 2500 with 6.0 gas pulling a Cougar XLite 5th wheel. 7-9 mpg and screaming uphill while being passed by everyone. Then a F350 SRW diesel pulling the Cougar. Much better. So much better that we bought the Montana. 12,500 GVW. I'm pulling it at about 12,000# most of the time. After we bought the washer/dryer, loaded it heavy for long trips, and the wife carries her 28 pairs of shoes, I discovered I was over the Fords payload. Javi said I should just get a dually and be done with it. So I traded that on a Ram 3500 SRW Cummins/Aisin with 900# more payload.. I love it. Then I bought the cabover and am also considering maybe a trade up to an Alpine.
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Old 07-04-2017, 10:13 AM   #30
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I always get about 20% better MPG than most of the people on this forum, either for when I had a diesel or now that I have a gas.

Of course I'm Canadian so I figure it with Imperial gallons

One of the things I've seen is that the payload on a 3/4 ton diesel is not much more than I have on my current 1/2 ton gasser. My payload is 2015 lbs and some of the similar 3/4 ton diesels are ~2,200 lbs. To me that is the biggest reason to go with a 1 ton if you are going diesel as payload will be over 3K.

That's not to say a 3/4 ton diesel won't outpull my 1/2 ton gasser, but I would want the bigger payload for not much more $.
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:44 PM   #31
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I'd suggest you forego the 3/4 ton and look for a 1 ton SRW or a Dually... The price either new or used will be close to the same as a 3/4 ton and the 1 ton will provide you a lot more flexibility in trailer choices...

Pulling a 5th wheel or larger TT you'll get about 10-12 mpg with a diesel and those brands.. I'd spend more time worrying about fuel capacity and load capacity than Brand... Although I do like my latest truck better than any of my dozen or so truck of past years..
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While the argument is made that 3/4 tons and 1 tons are basically the same with very minor defferances, given the choice I would rather be towing under my GVWR, than over it!
If you don't have the TV yet be looking for a 1 ton, either SRW or DRW, to have the GVWR sticker thet states you can carry what you have loaded.
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