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Old 12-30-2016, 02:21 PM   #41
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Hmmm... a Kenworth...

Not sure I could afford the payments after the divorce.

You get a used Kenworth will 500,000 miles left on it for less than decked our RAM 350 DRW. But that opens a whole new bag worms with insurance and etc. I looked into because I have seen smart cars loaded behind the cab pulling some larger 5ers. Some states you can register them as RV if they have sleeper but not mine.
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Old 12-30-2016, 02:22 PM   #42
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Ok. Understand I’m a newbie here…but the op is asking about towing a 2017 Passport Elite 19RB and you all are replying back with 2500s, duallies, diesels, etc? What?
I believe that the OP'S comments about a larger future trailer/toy hauler spurred the conversations about 1 tons and diesels. That and him also being really tight on payloads. The decision is his, the advice is solid. A lot of us have been in the same situation for the same reasons.

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Old 12-30-2016, 05:45 PM   #43
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I am a new 19RB owner and love it. Great little trailer that is kitted out pretty darn well. We have use our 2017 5 times and really want to use it even more. I started with a GMC Acadia (5200lb capacity) and recently upgraded to a GMC Sierra 1500 (9400lbs tow capacity) and wow what a difference. No more white knuckles all of the time. Like all things is life, getting the proper tool for the job is the best move. I opted for the bigger TV based on safety reasons. Peace of mind is important....there will be enough situations external to your control that you will need to respond to. Make the move when you can....goodness knows this gets a bit spendy.
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Old 12-30-2016, 07:55 PM   #44
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I am a new 19RB owner and love it. Great little trailer that is kitted out pretty darn well. We have use our 2017 5 times and really want to use it even more. I started with a GMC Acadia (5200lb capacity) and recently upgraded to a GMC Sierra 1500 (9400lbs tow capacity) and wow what a difference. No more white knuckles all of the time. Like all things is life, getting the proper tool for the job is the best move. I opted for the bigger TV based on safety reasons. Peace of mind is important....there will be enough situations external to your control that you will need to respond to. Make the move when you can....goodness knows this gets a bit spendy.
^^Amen. Most of us have been there.
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:44 AM   #45
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Voyager, be sure to read ALL the posts in this thread. His actual tongue weight running is going to be north of 900 lbs. When you add passengers, dogs, gear, fuel, etc in the truck bed.......just how big of a 1/2 ton do you own? See where this is going? By the way, you don't say what your equipment is. TV, RV, etc. Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 12-31-2016, 04:13 AM   #46
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In October of 2010, I purchased a new 2011 F250 Crew Cab 4x4 Diesel, the new 6.7 by Ford, which also has the new (at that time) 6 speed auto....similar in operation to the Allison in the GMC/Chevy trucks. I didn't know anything and obviously didn't research near enough before buying and just figured that a 3/4 Ton truck with a 400 HP/800 Ft. lbs torque, could pull and handle anything I wanted to put behind it....including a 35' - 40' 5er that I was planning on buying sometime down the road in 4 or 5 years. Surprise, surprise! So that 4 or 5 years down the road came this past October when we decided to buy our "retirement" Toy Hauler. The F250 Diesel just wasn't enough truck to handle the size 5er that I wanted to get. The CCC would have been overloaded by pin weight alone, much less anything additional that I would have needed to put in the truck.......like my wife, fuel, hitch, etc......you know some of the things that's always nice to have along for the trip! So, rather than having to spend money not only on a Toy Hauler, AND a new or used heavier duty truck, I chose to buy a T.H. that is a pull behind and the size is more than adequate for our needs. My preference would have been a 5er, but having something that is workable and also nice is better than not having anything. My point in all of this is that the lesson learned here is to research, talk to folks in the know (this and other forums with lots and lots of experienced folks), and do your homework based on factual information, not just hearsay (from a salesman). Had I done that, I would not have to have compromised on a 5er. Am I unhappy, not really. I think I have a very nice T.H. that will serve us well for the intended purpose that we bought it for. I'm not inclined to every be a full timer (that may change but not likely), and the 34 1/2' T.H. that we now have will hopefully work out very well for us.

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Old 12-31-2016, 02:11 PM   #47
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Now I'm NOT worried...

Can't thank everyone enough for the advice... I pulled the trigger on the truck I really wanted in the first place. I think it will do fine for at least one more TT upgrade... maybe a small TH. Regardless, I can now tow my current TT ( when it's delivered ) safe and sound.
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:17 PM   #48
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And... my wife ( ) let me keep the Tacoma!
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:46 PM   #49
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Old 12-31-2016, 02:50 PM   #50
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Can't thank everyone enough for the advice... I pulled the trigger on the truck I really wanted in the first place. I think it will do fine for at least one more TT upgrade... maybe a small TH. Regardless, I can now tow my current TT ( when it's delivered ) safe and sound.
Perfect!! Enjoy that great looking truck. I envy you!
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Can't thank everyone enough for the advice... I pulled the trigger on the truck I really wanted in the first place. I think it will do fine for at least one more TT upgrade... maybe a small TH. Regardless, I can now tow my current TT ( when it's delivered ) safe and sound.
Congratulations on that new truck!! I think you're going to be really pleased and it should do a stellar job of towing the trailer you have......and another upgrade or two! I think you will like the 6.4 as well. I think you got the 4x4 but even then it has a lot of "ooomp"
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Congrats on the TV. Let us know when you get your TT.


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Old 12-31-2016, 03:41 PM   #53
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Thanks... I'll post pics of the TT hooked up to the Ram. Probably mid-January at this point. I'm sure there's a proper thread for that... still finding my way around here.
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Old 12-31-2016, 03:49 PM   #54
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Congratulations on that new truck!! I think you're going to be really pleased and it should do a stellar job of towing the trailer you have......and another upgrade or two! I think you will like the 6.4 as well. I think you got the 4x4 but even then it has a lot of "ooomp"
It's really a nice combination. For a 3/4 ton, it rides very smooth. It is a 4x4, but even with all the weight it doesn't feel lacking for power at all. I'd have to look up the dimensions of the 2007 2500 I had to be sure, but this truck looks much bigger.

Actually, the new 1500's look as big as the 2007 2500. Maybe an optical illusion since I'm used to the little Tacoma now.
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:08 AM   #55
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Hi. I just bought the same 19RB and first and only 400 mile return trip towing with a Chevy Silverado, V8, 5.3L. The TT weight is about 1/2 of the trucks capacity, being said my truck was working but reasonably so. What I didn't count on is the wind resistance! Incredible, as I got 8.5 mpg I thought Jeez maybe there is something up with the TT / Truck combo. Apparently not, 8 -10 is considered normal, especially with cross or head winds. That being said, I would suggest that it is not just weight to think about but wind resistance (wr). There are technical names for wr, and what I read last week indicates that could and does play a huge role in what type of vehicle you tow with. The 19RB is 11'-2" high.....

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Old 02-20-2017, 04:41 PM   #56
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Midnight, I have some data about miles per gal and towing. Mainly since I have had the same truck listed below in 2003. I have had 2 truck campers. 1st wt 3400lb, 2nd 4400lb. Than several boats. Mainly current boat 3800lb, 2 axle trailer. Finally the current TT listed below. Since 2001 I have had a beach house to visit. Traveling with any of those listed on or behind the truck on the same route at about the same speed the mpg would always be around 12. Never much above or below. Not more than 1 mph difference. I say this because I did it for years and had the same vehicle to compare. You would think the boat would get much better, it's wt. is less and profile much smaller even with the windshield and top than the TT. And with the AF990 truck camper I was taller than the TT. Others maybe different but, that's what I found happened. Highway speeds 55-60 when towing almost all the time.
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