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Old 09-16-2019, 03:48 AM   #21
Dan Lockwood
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Honestly I never paid attention to my Raptor until this weekend while washing it the first time.

I see that my pin box has been moved to the lower holes and it appears it was done when new. I texted my dealer and asked about this practice and he said that they've done it for a LONG time and never had a failure. He assured me not to worry about my setup as it's safe.

But again, each to their own.

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Old 09-18-2019, 12:33 PM   #22
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Well folks,

Thought I would share what I have learned. After calling Keystone, which was no help, my selling dealer, and posting my pin box issue one this forum, the general consensus was it was ok to lower the pin box to the lowest level, even though the lowest row of bolts would not be connected to the supporting angle iron. (see picture in 1st post) I did not feel comfortable doing this. It just didn't seem safe.

Well...

I found out that the pin box and pin box mount were built by Lippert and I called their tech support line. They told me absolutely not to have the pin box supported without both rows of the bolts connected thru the angle iron supports, that it was VERY unsafe. So, I ended up purchasing a Flex Air "long jaw" pin box. It will increase the distance from the bed rails to the bottom of the RV 3 inches. It will also push the RV back in the bed so there will no longer be contact between the bottom of the RV and the bed rails. The pin box cost me $1300.00 on Amazon and will be delivered next week. I am sure it is going to be a pain in the butt to get the whole thing level as the pin box must weigh a ton!

I will update this post when the task is complete and let you all know if I just flushed $1300.00 down the toilet. I hope not.
Interesting, I just went through these discussions with LCI and got a different story. I will post the email chain below but they said using the bottom holes was fine.
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From: Dusty Baker
Sent: 9/17/2019 4:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Pin Adjustment

Hi,

I have a 2019 Keystone Fuzion 369. The 369 has a Lippert LCI 6421481 frame "picture 1" and a Rota-Flex 19000 pin "Picture 2". I need an additional 2-3 inches of bed clearance. I currently have the Rota-Flex connected via 6 bolts through the angle irons as illustrated in picture 2. this is the way it came from the manufacturer. Picture 3 shows 3 bolts through the angle iron and three below the angle iron (this is not my trailer). is it safe to mount 3 bolts below the angle iron as shown in picture 3? If not is there a pin I can use that would give me 3 more inches of clearance to the bed? My hitch Reese M5 27k is at max height.

Thank you

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EmailToCase <[email protected]>
To: Dusty Baker

Good afternoon Dusty, the hole you show with farthest down is all the lower you can go. We do not have any other pinbox's that drop any lower.

Thank you,

David Bice
Lippert Components
Parts Specialist
w: 574.537.8900 | F: 574.534.7161
Technical/Parts/Warranty: e-mail @ [email protected]
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From: Dusty Baker
Sent: 9/18/2019 1:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Pin Adjustment [ ref:_00Di0aIhw._5001Y1IuY9j:ref ]

David, to make sure I understand your response. I can lower the pin box to the third set of holes down from the top, below the angle iron?

Thanks

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EmailToCase <[email protected]>
Tousty Baker

That is correct. Make sure all the holes are used in the pinbox sleeve and torque bolts to 110 to foot lbs

Thank you,

David Bice
Lippert Components
Parts Specialist
w: 574.537.8900 | F: 574.534.7161
Technical/Parts/Warranty: e-mail @ [email protected]

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From: Dusty Baker
Sent: 9/18/2019 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Pin Adjustment [ ref:_00Di0aIhw._5001Y1IuY9j:ref ]

David, if the pin box sleeve is the terminology used for the item the pin box slides into then, the sleeve has a total of 9 holes each side, three rows of three. The Rota-Flex pin has two rows of three each side. When I lower the Rota-Flex down one set of holes to the lower position the top row in the sleeve will be empty. So all the holes would not be used correct?

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EmailToCase <[email protected]>
To: Dusty Baker

Need to make sure that 6 bolts per side is being used. I call the sleeve the inner part that holds the pin.

Thank you,

David Bice
Lippert Components
Parts Specialist
w: 574.537.8900 | F: 574.534.7161
Technical/Parts/Warranty: e-mail @ [email protected]
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