Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 

Go Back   Keystone RV Forums > Keystone Tech Forums > Modifications and Upgrades
Click Here to Login

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 11-20-2016, 04:27 PM   #1
hdxbonez
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 161
Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

Has anyone tried a Kat's heater on their fridge reservoir to prevent freezing? The small 25 watt 1x5 pad looks like it would work great. Not sure how hot it gets or if there is an automated thermostat. Thoughts?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20161120-192046.jpg
Views:	247
Size:	20.0 KB
ID:	11484  
__________________
2013 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD
2015 Cougar 326 SRX
hdxbonez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 04:36 PM   #2
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,338
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

I would think if the refer was on then you wouldn't need to heat the reservoir.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 04:49 PM   #3
hdxbonez
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 161
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

It's my understanding that the colder it gets, the less the unit runs. At some point in extreme cold, the ammonia/water solution would freeze, requiring a thaw before using it again. Some Dometic units have a low ambient temperature setiing, but mine does not. It seems these units keep the interior light on to generate heat, requiring more frequent cycling. I looked at doing this, but it appears it would require refrigerator removal to access the wiring.
__________________
2013 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD
2015 Cougar 326 SRX
hdxbonez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 05:36 PM   #4
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,338
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

Looking at a dometic owners manual, it says refer may not work as efficiently when ambient temps are sub zero. Seems like I remember a thread a while ago about this but can't find it.

We don't have extreme temps out here where I live, work and camp. Freezing temps come with snow/ice, and I won't tow my trailer in those conditions. Maybe someone that has dealt with this will respond.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2016, 05:51 PM   #5
hdxbonez
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 161
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

I wouldn't tow mine in questionable conditions either, but I'm currently full timing in New Hampshire until I sell my home in CT, and build a new home here.
__________________
2013 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD
2015 Cougar 326 SRX
hdxbonez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 05:57 AM   #6
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,338
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

Since the heating pad is 110V, if you do use it you will need an outlet for it. Your fridge plugs in but that receptacle is only a single outlet. It only operates the heating element so you could run the refer on LP plug the pad into the outlet. Otherwise you'll have to either change the plug, or run an extension cord.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 04:27 PM   #7
hdxbonez
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 161
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

The small heater only draws about .25 amp, my thought was to use a heavy duty grounded 3 way adapter and run both off the single outlet
__________________
2013 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD
2015 Cougar 326 SRX
hdxbonez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2016, 06:22 PM   #8
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,338
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

That should work. I just wanted to be sure you knew the plug in the refer compartment was a single outlet.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2016, 03:17 PM   #9
hdxbonez
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 161
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

A little more research says that the Kat's heater may get to 300 or more degrees. Sounds like more than I want to just keep the small reservoir warm. So I've switched gears and put a clamp light with reflector under the reservoir with a 40 watt heavy duty appliance bulb in it. So far so good, the reservoir feels warmer to the touch without any excessive heat anywhere else
__________________
2013 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD
2015 Cougar 326 SRX
hdxbonez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2016, 04:36 PM   #10
chuckster57
Site Team
 
chuckster57's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Modesto
Posts: 20,338
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

Glad to hear you did more research. 300 degrees would not be good.
__________________

2012 Copper Canyon 273FWRET being towed by a 1994 Ford F350 CC,LB,Dually diesel.
Airlift 5000 bags, Prodigy brake control, 5 gauges on the pillar.Used to tow a '97 Jayco 323RKS.

Now an RVIA registered tech. Retired from Law enforcement in 2008 after 25+ yrs.
chuckster57 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2016, 05:57 PM   #11
JRTJH
Site Team
 
JRTJH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Gaylord
Posts: 26,995
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

The electric heater and/or the gas flame "should be" enough heat to keep the refrigerator "perking" the ammonia/sulphur solution as long as the temperature around the back coils isn't too extremely cold. Putting additional heat in the form of a light bulb or a "tape heater" would probably work, but another concept is to block a portion of the lower vent grill which would reduce the air flowing through the coils and warm up the area in the back of the refrigerator.

Have you considered just placing an appropriately shaped/sized sheet of 1/2" rigid foam board inside the lower vent? That would block the wind, stop most of the circulation of cold air through the "chimney" and allow the refrigerator heating unit to warm up the area behind the refrigerator. If you consider experimenting with this, you'll need to leave a small opening in the foam sheet so you still get some circulation of air through the area. I'd suspect that leaving a 3"x3" (9 sq inches) of open space along the lower corner of the foam sheet will give you adequate air flow on the coldest days. Just don't forget to remove the foam once the temperatures are above freezing for the majority of the day.
__________________
John



2015 F250 6.7l 4x4
2014 Cougar X Lite 27RKS
JRTJH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-26-2016, 04:12 AM   #12
hdxbonez
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 161
Re: Kat's heater for cold weather fridge use?

That's a good idea as well John, I may rig something up to work along with the clamp light
__________________
2013 Ram 3500 6.7 CTD
2015 Cougar 326 SRX
hdxbonez is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
fridge, heat, heater


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Keystone RV Company or any of its affiliates in any way. Keystone RV® is a registered trademark of the Keystone RV Company.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 05:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.