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Old 08-17-2018, 05:35 AM   #1
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I have my new Alpine, just hit 2000 miles on it. It has Provider Tires. Tread is still good, but like many it seems this is an off brand. Anyone have experience on how long these will last? Last thing I want is a blow out. Weíve had some hot weather traveling 100+.
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Old 08-17-2018, 05:53 AM   #2
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I have the same brand of tires but not many miles towing on them. So like you I am interested to hear feedback on the tires quality. I keep mine covered and off the ground.
Here is some info on what you (we) have: (If they are 16 inch)
https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Tir...c-16_Inch.aspx
Yes they are made in China,but are they China bombs? I don't know or intend to find out. My tires are in great shape and I will give them a spin for a few trips unless my TPMS (highly recommended) or negative feedback on this forum say's otherwise.
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Old 08-17-2018, 06:36 AM   #3
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I have the same brand of tires but not many miles towing on them. So like you I am interested to hear feedback on the tires quality. I keep mine covered and off the ground.
Here is some info on what you (we) have: (If they are 16 inch)
https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Tir...c-16_Inch.aspx
Yes they are made in China,but are they China bombs? I don't know or intend to find out. My tires are in great shape and I will give them a spin for a few trips unless my TPMS (highly recommended) or negative feedback on this forum say's otherwise.
I have/had the same qualms about the Provider tires but everything I've found on them has eased my fears somewhat. I'm starting to believe that even though they are made in China they are not the low quality that Trailer Kings or other lower wight graded tires are. Only have about 4,000 miles on mine at this point but so far no problems.
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:10 AM   #4
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Accord to a guy(JIMNLIN) that hauls commercially on RV.net the Providers are highly regarded by their industry.
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Old 08-17-2018, 07:38 AM   #5
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That's good news and feedback for the OP and myself.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:18 AM   #6
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I have/had the same qualms about the Provider tires but everything I've found on them has eased my fears somewhat. I'm starting to believe that even though they are made in China they are not the low quality that Trailer Kings or other lower wight graded tires are. Only have about 4,000 miles on mine at this point but so far no problems.

I don't think all "Chinese" made tires are inferior. From what I've seen there are certain plants in certain provinces (Shandong) that seem to produce the majority of the "bombs" so just being "Chinese" isn't the driving factor; it goes deeper than that from what I can tell. Probably who owns the plant, oversight, production criteria, QC etc.
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:52 AM   #7
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The G rated Provider tires on your Alpine will be just fine. They are 4400 lbs at 110 psi. Wheels should be rated at that since it came from factory with those tires on it. You can verify wheel psi by looking on backside of wheel

http://taskmasterproducts.com/products/provider-st-radial/
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Old 08-17-2018, 08:55 AM   #8
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Provider tires will be just fine
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Iíd recommend you spend a few bucks and install a TPMS on the fifth wheel. I have one and also two sensors on my rear wheel tires on truck so I can monitor temps and pressures.

Typically if I tow in 90 plus temps at 62 mph I see about 122 for average psi on RV tires and temps are around 128 depending on which side is getting sun.

My drive tires on truck run at about 90 psi with about 118 temp.

I inflate my G rated Chinese Geo Stars to 110 psi cold and rear tires on truck at 80 psi cold.

My tow speed is a constant 62 mph.
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Old 08-17-2018, 09:03 AM   #10
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Iím happy that Alpine now comes with G rated tires. My 2014 Alpine came with Trailer King E rated 10 ply crap. They were removed first year before I had issues.

Honestly any G rated tires on an Alpine or like weight fifth wheel will be just fine for several seasons.

Proper cold air inflation and keeping speed at a sensible 65 or less is paramount.
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Thanks everyone, that helps me a bunch.

Iím saving for a 450 and will get the Trailer package with the camera and TPMS.

Right now Iím an top of air pressure all the time. Check it everytime we leave and every time we stop.

Thanks again
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:31 AM   #12
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Thanks everyone, that helps me a bunch.

Iím saving for a 450 and will get the Trailer package with the camera and TPMS.

Right now Iím an top of air pressure all the time. Check it everytime we leave and every time we stop.

Thanks again
Air pressure is only half the needed checks. You might want to also pick up one of these on your next trip to Harbor Freight for about $15. https://www.harborfreight.com/non-co...ing-69465.html Or if preferred, you could spend $50 at NAPA for one....

Don't worry about "specific temperatures, rather monitor at stops for temp ranges that are similar on adjacent tires, wheels, brake drums...
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:48 AM   #13
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Thatís why I run TPMS so I can real time
Monitor tire temps. If something is heating up Iíll get both a visual and audible warning while in motion.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:18 PM   #14
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Thatís why I run TPMS so I can real time
Monitor tire temps. If something is heating up Iíll get both a visual and audible warning while in motion.
Yup, but Fishsizzle is saving for a new truck and doesn't yet have a TPMS. That infrared thermometer is an interim measure for $15 until he can swing the funding for a $250 TPMS. Just one alternative for members who don't yet have all the goodies but still have tires on their trailers that need to be checked. It just makes life a little easier in the meantime....
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Can’t argue with cost. Something is better than nothing. And Harbor freight is my go to place for lots of items.. low prices and decent quality in most cases.

Honestly knowing what I know now my TPMS would have been my first purchase of any extra item for the fifth wheel... it’s amazing even on a 28 degree morning to watch those tire pressures increase 10 psi in the first five minutes of road travel.

They won’t catch most tread separations that are about to occur.. nothing beats a get on your knees and look all around closely at each tire.

Also Harbor Freight has a low cost flexible borescope camara that’s a nice to have.
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Canít argue with cost. Something is better than nothing. And Harbor freight is my go to place for lots of items.. low prices and decent quality in most cases.

Honestly knowing what I know now my TPMS would have been my first purchase of any extra item for the fifth wheel... itís amazing even on a 28 degree morning to watch those tire pressures increase 10 psi in the first five minutes of road travel.

They wonít catch most tread separations that are about to occur.. nothing beats a get on your knees and look all around closely at each tire.

Also Harbor Freight has a low cost flexible borescope camara thatís a nice to have.
I agree. Honestly, if I was in Fishsizzle's shoes, saving for a new truck with a built in TPMS and rear view camera option, I wouldn't be spending money on a "temporary system" for my current truck either. Granted, it's a "gamble things won't go bad in the meantime" but paying $250 for a system to use now that's going to sit on the shelf or get sold for $25 at the next garage sale just doesn't make good economic sense... (which brings me to why I shop at Harbor Freight for much of my "goodie stuff") ...
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Old 08-17-2018, 01:32 PM   #17
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I have my new Alpine, just hit 2000 miles on it. It has Provider Tires. Tread is still good, but like many it seems this is an off brand. Anyone have experience on how long these will last? Last thing I want is a blow out. We’ve had some hot weather traveling 100+.
My 2017 Alpine 3660FL came with those . First trip around 1000 miles and one of the tires literally had chunks of rubber break off. Fortunately nothing happened and got it replaced during the one warranty. I ordered and installed Sailun tires and I turned my replaced tire into my spare as it was a 10 ply instead of 14. Took another trip with the new Sailuns and have been happy so far. Didn't want to risk a blow out, worse damage to unit
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Old 08-17-2018, 04:20 PM   #18
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3yrs 20000 miles no issues, have another 20000 left in them.

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I had Provider G rated on my Alpine. Put 60 miles on them towing the 5th wheel home from the dealer. Sold them on Craigslist with 60 miles on them. Put Sailuns on the 5th wheel and never looked back. No comparison in quality between the Providers and the Sailuns.
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Old 08-18-2018, 06:08 PM   #20
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Accord to a guy(JIMNLIN) that hauls commercially on RV.net the Providers are highly regarded by their industry.

This is Keystone country Chris. How ya doing?
Is it really you, touting ST tires?

http://taskmasterproducts.com/produc...der-st-radial/
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