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10-26-2018, 12:56 PM
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8 screws
Just doing a bit of electrical work inside the old Cougar. Took down one of the fixtures and it had 8 screws holding it to the ceiling. I would venture to say it weighs less than 8 oz. How about that for Keystone quality! 
Oh did I say 8 screws. Why? 
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10-26-2018, 01:05 PM
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1. Cause only 2 screws were into anything that would hold an 8oz fixture 
2. Tech was out of chewing gum?
3. Tech was listening to "Guns and Roses" and just got carried away cause "It's So Easy"
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10-26-2018, 01:15 PM
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Don't worry you'll find six things that they only used one screw on....
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10-26-2018, 01:46 PM
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Maybe he got to go home once he used up all the screws?
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10-26-2018, 02:53 PM
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The light fixture is also holding the roof on??? Chris
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10-26-2018, 07:49 PM
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Common across the industry.
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10-27-2018, 04:58 AM
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Maybe someone had one of these fixtures fall down because the screws were secured to air and they sent a bulletin to the assembly line foreman to secure the light better. By the time the message got to the guy with the screw gun in hand it was "make sure you screw that sucker down good". Like the campfire game where you whisper something in the ear of the person next to you and listen to how it changed by the time it comes full circle. Or how posts and comments on other comments change after the number of replies go up. 
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10-27-2018, 06:56 AM
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The original message and probably the one QC at Keystone looks for is: Put a screw in every screw hole or you'll be working overtime to fix your mistakes.
I know, I know, I used the words "fix" and "mistakes" in the same sentence, which is something NO RV manufacturer allows......
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10-27-2018, 08:04 AM
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6 of them were over-torqued and stripped out?
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10-27-2018, 08:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by C.LeeNick
6 of them were over-torqued and stripped out?
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No actually quite surprised every one was holding in the ~ 1/8" Luan.
The only thing I can think is back in 2012 Keystone only employed Craftsman in Pendleton OR. and RVs were hand built instead of Assembly Line workers.  
I also have some ocean front property for sale in Arizona.
Willing to take back a mortgage to help with financing. 
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10-27-2018, 05:25 PM
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I think there getting paid for peace work. In that case that would account for extra screws.
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10-27-2018, 05:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadglide
I think there getting paid for peace work. In that case that would account for extra screws.
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If that was the case they should all be very rich. Every time I open up an underbelly it’s like Christmas at the hardware store! 
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11-01-2018, 01:01 PM
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some really great answers here
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11-01-2018, 02:05 PM
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I think it is cheaper to keep putting screws in than to spend the ten minutes it would take to find the studs and put in two screws that hit them. Just keep drilling till something hits.
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11-01-2018, 06:34 PM
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Laugh
Good sense of humor on the replies thanks got the chuckle
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11-02-2018, 02:47 AM
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Those are spares for when the others fall out and get lost.
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11-02-2018, 04:11 AM
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Every time we camp I find at least one screw laying on the floor or carpet in the trailer... I used to spend a goodly amount of time looking for where it might have fallen from... Never have found a screw missing... well according to the DW I have several screws loose... But not in the trailer..
Seriously... I've yet to set up the trailer and not find at least one screw laying around and nothing has fallen off the wall and all the cabinet doors are still firmly attached...
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11-02-2018, 04:15 AM
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11-02-2018, 04:28 AM
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I wish the person who assembled our slide-out drawers under the dinette seating area had used a few more (and substantial) screws. One came out on the drawer slide (only two were holding it all together) and it was a time-consuming effort on my part to figure out the issue as to why the slide was jamming, then disassemble it, find a workable screw and put it back together.
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11-02-2018, 06:16 AM
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The new guy, 8 holes 8 screws
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