My TV shuts off.

[Steve S]

K here's a strange one: My TV will shut off sometimes and turn back on for no reason and the other TV doesn't.
So far it seems that when using the hot water and the tank heating up the TV shuts off. If this is a power surge shouldn't a breaker be tripping?
Once in awhile when the furnace kicks in it'll do the same......confused!

[hankpage]

Steve, I can understand a surge with the water heater but the furnace is 12v and should not have any affect. Hmmmm, this is a new one.

[PARAPTOR]

Try changing the configuration and see if problem follows. Switch the two TV's if convenient. Or power the TV acting up from a plug on a different circuit(breaker). Post results if you decide to try this.

[Festus2]

Steve -
Try unplugging the TV set and plugging in something else with a similar wattage -- and see if it also stops working. If it doesn't then perhaps there is something wrong with the TV set. If it does quit, then Hank's suggestion would apply..."Mmmmmmm, this a new one".

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by Festus2

Steve -
Try unplugging the TV set and plugging in something else with a similar wattage -- and see if it also stops working. If it doesn't then perhaps there is something wrong with the TV set. If it does quit, then Hank's suggestion would apply..."Mmmmmmm, this a new one".

Both the bluray and the surround are plugged in to the same circuit and they never stop. The surround sucks more power then the TV so it makes no sense.
The TV is fine, it worked great in the house and acted up in here. I actually took it in to the house and no prob.
K the other TV never has a problem and I've changed them around and it works fine.
Here's what I was thinking while @ work: I'm running off the antenna and from what I've read there's power going to that antenna correct? Could the surge from the furnace be interfering with the power to the antenna? This was just a thought.
D told me that the signal on the bedroom TV is always full bars and the bigger TV isn't always full bars so maybe a signal thing combined with a surge and low voltage with the antenna?
Also the Jenson TV that came with the trailer would do the same thing but not that often.
So is this a hmmmm thing?

[PARAPTOR]

Originally Posted by Steve S

Both the bluray and the surround are plugged in to the same circuit and they never stop. The surround sucks more power then the TV so it makes no sense.
The TV is fine, it worked great in the house and acted up in here. I actually took it in to the house and no prob.
K the other TV never has a problem and I've changed them around and it works fine.
Here's what I was thinking while @ work: I'm running off the antenna and from what I've read there's power going to that antenna correct? Could the surge from the furnace be interfering with the power to the antenna? This was just a thought. D told me that the signal on the bedroom TV is always full bars and the bigger TV isn't always full bars so maybe a signal thing combined with a surge and low voltage with the antenna?
Also the Jenson TV that came with the trailer would do the same thing but not that often.
So is this a hmmmm thing?

I was assuming that when you said the TV when on and off I was thinking you meant the POWER ? That is way I suggested changing outlets. If you meant the picture was going on and off with TV still having power, now knowing TV works else where, its the signal. I do not see how this can be affected by the WH ? Did not ask but assumed WH is in Electric Mode? Yes, the Antenna is powered (12VDC) and controlled on/off by a push button on the coaxial plate usually in bedroom. Same 12VDC as for your Furnace motor. I would not think the furnace coming on would load down the 12V line to effect the antenna AMP. Unless you changed the coaxial wiring those two TV's are plugged into coaxial wall plugs going to the same powered antenna. Signal wise I would expect all the TV's to get the same signal strength. Could check connection on antenna power in that coaxial connect plate with the antenna power button and make sure power to antenna is on (lite push button).
Only thing I can think of for now

[hankaye]

SteveS, Howdy;

check ALL the coax connections, that means pull the wall plates
out and check the ones behind them as well. generally the judicious
use of a 7/16" wrench to snug the connections (finger tight + 1/2 of a flat),
You should also get up on the roof and check the connections at the antenna as well.
I found the vast majority of mine were only turned on to the connections
a few turns, no where near tight.
Good luck.

hankaye

[hankpage]

Now we are getting somewhere. Signal loss will be greatest at the tv farthest from the amplifier (antenna booster) which is 12v. The tuner in the larger tv may not be as sensitive and slight fluctuations in signal may cause it to drop channels and then re-tune to gain them back again. The amp draws very little power and it is unlikely that the furnace or the igniter on the WH would draw down the 12v enough to effect it but you might want to check your battery. As mentioned check all connections and cable connecting tv to the wall. It should be RG6 or 6U .... since your trailer is '10 the RG59 used pre '09 may loose some signal if that is what you are using ...... Yes, I am grabbing at straws here and it is most likely just the sensitivity of the tuner in that tv. Let us know if anything helps eliminate the problem, Hank

[denverpilot]

RF noise from motors, etc? A converter going bad throwing RF noise?

Does it only happen on your weakest channels? Most digital TVs have a signal strength meter for the channel you're watching buried in the setup menu somewhere. See if you can correlate it to signal strength dropping.

If you have old/brittle cable, water ingress into the cable will make an already weak signal even weaker. Then a noise source starts up, poof... Now too weak to receive.

Just a thought...

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by denverpilot

RF noise from motors, etc? A converter going bad throwing RF noise?

Does it only happen on your weakest channels? Most digital TVs have a signal strength meter for the channel you're watching buried in the setup menu somewhere. See if you can correlate it to signal strength dropping.

If you have old/brittle cable, water ingress into the cable will make an already weak signal even weaker. Then a noise source starts up, poof... Now too weak to receive.

Just a thought...

If the converter was going bad is there a way to test it? The signal is great on the station I'm watching, the space heater kicked in and the TV went off. I turned off the space heater and the TV went back on.
I ran another power source to it as suggested and still no change.
Another thing I noticed was since I've changed all the lights to LED I can't hear the converter kick in. There's no fan noise or anything now?

[denverpilot]

Easiest test would be to monitor AC voltage. Converter could be dropping the AC voltage low enough to reset the TV. That could be converter, loose connections to battery, weak battery, number of things. Just have to discount them one by one individually. Can you run an extension cord to the trailer just for the TV and then fire up the converter and see if the TV drops? That'd tell you if it's input power to the TV getting hammered, or if it's an RF signal/noise problem.

[hankaye]

Howdy All;

Have you looked in to the possibility
that your DW or your neighbor as a remote
that works on the same frequency?????

hankaye

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by hankaye

Howdy All;

Have you looked in to the possibility
that your DW or your neighbor as a remote
that works on the same frequency?????

hankaye

What's a DW?

[JRTJH]

Here's the list as compiled by the forum administrator:

Here is a list of common Internet Acronyms. I would use this as a starting poitn and add remove fromthis list.


AFAIC = As far as I'm concerned
AFAIK = As Far As I Know
AFK = Away From Keyboard
AKA = Also Known As
ASAP = As Soon As Possible
BAK = Back At Keyboard
BBL = Be Back Later
B/C = Because
BFN = Bye For Now =
BFO = Blinding Flash of the Obvious
BO = Buffer (Brain) Overload =
BOHICA = Bend Over, Here It Comes Again!
BOKYAG = Bend Over and Kiss Your A** Goodbye
BRB = Be Right Back
BTSOOM = beats the stuffing out of me
BTW = By The Way
CU = See You
CUL8R = See You Later
CYA = Cover Your Arse
DITYID = Did I Tell You I'm Distressed?
EFLA = Extended Four Letter Acronym!
FAQ = Frequently Asked Question
FC = Fingers Crossed
FCFS = First Come First Served
FEAR = Forget Everything And Run
FIIOH = Forget It, I'm Outta Here
FMV = Full Motion Video
FUBAR = Fouled-Up Beyond All Recognition
FUCT = Failed Under Continuous Testing
FWIW = For What It's Worth
FYI = For Your Information
GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike
GTRM = Going To Read Mail =
GR&D = Grinning, Running, & Ducking
HSIK = How Should I Know
HTH = Happy To Help
HTH = Hope This Helps
IAE = In Any Event
IANA... = I am not a ...
IBK = Idiot Behind Keyboard
IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
IITYWTMWYBMAD = If I Tell You What This Means Will You Buy Me A Drink?
ILF = I'll Look Forward
IMCO = In My Considered Opinion
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
IMNSHO = In My Not So Humble Opinion
IMO = In My Opinion
INAL = I'm Not A Lawyer
IOW = In Other Words
IRC = Internet Relay Chat
IRL = In Real Life
IYKWIM = If You Know What I mean
JFYI = Just For Your Information
J/K = Just Kidding
L8R = Later
LMAO = Laughing My Arse Off
LMKOAP = Let Me Know Of Any Problems
LOL = Laugh(ing) Out Loud
LOEL = Laugh(ing) Out Extremely Loud
MIL-TFD-41 = Make It Like The Freaking Drawing For Once
MMP = More Money, Please
ML = Mailing List
NBD = No Big Deal
NFW = No Freaking Way
NIFOC = Nude In Front Of Computer
NIFOK = Naked In Front of the Keyboard
NOYB = None Of Your Business
NRN = No Reply Necessary
OIC = Oh, I See!
OOH = Out Of Hand
OOTB = Out Of The Box
OTL = Out To Lunch
OTOH = On The Other Hand
PITA = Pain In The Arse
PMFJI = Pardon Me For Jumping In
PMJI = Pardon My Jumping In
POV = Point Of View
PSX = Sony Playstation
PTB = Powers That Be
PU = That Stinks!
ROFL = Rolling On Floor Laughing
ROFLWMP = Rolling on the Floor Wetting My Pants
ROTF = Rolling On The Floor
ROTFL = Rolling On the Floor Laughing
ROTFLMAO = Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Arse Off
ROTFLOL = Rolled on the Floor Laughing Out Loud
RSN = Real Soon Now
RTFM = Read The Freajubg Manual (or Message)
RTM = Read The Manual (or Message)
SEP = Someone Else's Problem
SGI = She'd Get it!
SITD = Still In The Dark
SLAP = Sounds Like A Plan
SNAFU = Situation Normal- All Fouled-Up
SOL = Smiling Out Loud
TANJ = There Ain't No Justice
TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
TBH = To Be Honest
TIA = Thanks In Advance
TIC = Tongue In Cheek
TLA = Three-Letter Acronyms
TLTBT = Too Ludicrous To Be True!
TPTB = The Powers That Be
TTFN = Ta Ta For Now
TTYL = Talk To You Later
Txs = Thanks or Texas
VPL = Visible Pantie Line
WGFF? = Who Gives A Flying Flood?
WIC = Where I'm Concerned
WIMP = Washed-up Information Media Phobe
WOA = Work Of Art
WOB = Waste of Bandwidth
WRT = with respect to
WTHIGO = What The Heck Is Going On?
WTH = What The Heck (Hell)
WYSIWYG = What you see is what you get
YAM = Yet Another Meeting
YCHT = You can have them
YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

And another by a member with quite a bit of "tech savvy":

5ver = 5th wheel trailer
AKA = Also Known As
ASAP = As Soon As Possible
BFN = Bye For Now
BTW = By The Way
CU = See You
CUL = See You Later
DH = designated husband or darling husband
DW = same only substitute wife for husband
FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions
FYI = For Your Information
GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike
HTH = Happy To Help or Hope This Helps
IAE = In Any Event
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
IMO = In My Opinion
IOW = In Other Words
JMHO = Just My Humble Opinion
LOL = Laugh(ing) Out Loud
ML = Mailing List
NBD = No Big Deal
NRN = No Reply Necessary
OIC = Oh, I See!
OTL = Out To Lunch
POV = Point Of View
PTB = Powers That Be
ROFL = Rolling On Floor Laughing
RTM = Read The Manual (or Message)
SITD = Still In The Dark
SLAP = Sounds Like A Plan
SOL = Smiling Out Loud
TBH = To Be Honest
TIA = Thanks In Advance
TIC = Tongue In Cheek
TT = Travel Trailer
TV = Tow Vehicle

Please refrain from using acronyms that allude to crude and vulgar language. The forum rules still apply even to acronyms.

[PARAPTOR]

Thanks John
My generation. "Decoder Rings"

[JRTJH]

Originally Posted by Steve S

What's a DW?

^^ your question,

below it: the answer plus the answers to the "rest of the list"

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by hankaye

Howdy All;

Have you looked in to the possibility
that your DW or your neighbor as a remote
that works on the same frequency?????

hankaye

Thanks for the answers and the list John now can you figure out what he/she means by this answer

[JRTJH]

If I can interpret for Hankaye, "Maybe your wife or a neighbor has a remote control that's tuned to the same frequency and when they are using it at their place, it is affecting your TV."

John

[Steve S]

Originally Posted by JRTJH

If I can interpret for Hankaye, "Maybe your wife or a neighbor has a remote control that's tuned to the same frequency and when they are using it at their place, it is affecting your TV."

John

I never thought about that, I guess different frequencies from a TV or even the wireless connections could affect things.

[denverpilot]

Heh. It's always the small stuff. Glad you found it.