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10-21-2021, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ND1C
I have a 2010 Keystone Laredo 245rl it is well within the half ton towing. it's about 7k lbs and won't exceed the half ton pin weight limits of a half ton. There are many others. but watch pin weight as well as trailer weight.
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I hate to inform you that if someone has told you that you're within the weights of your 1/2 ton you've been misinformed.
The specs for that 5er state it's 7200+ lb dry with a 9800 lb GVWR of which 23% calculates to 2000+ lb pin weight which is NOT within the weight limits of most 1/2 ton trucks, typically 1500-1800 lb payloads depending on level of options.
FYI the dry weight for any rv is a totally useless number as is the max tow weight of any truck in the real rv world.
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10-22-2021, 04:09 AM
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I was stopped at a Cracker Barrel in Nebraska one time and I saw a Ford F-150 pulling a Forest River Blue Ridge bunkhouse, the camper was at least 40ft long. I talked to the owner and he told me the truck pulled the fifth wheel great. A Ford is a pulling machine, most of the time when I’m passed pulling my Cedar Creek it’s a Ford. I normally run 70mph and a Ford pulling a fifth wheel will blow me off the road. If you are worried about stopping the camper just install disk brakes on the camper
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10-22-2021, 08:00 AM
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Whilebyou CAN find a light-weight fiver for a 1/2 ton truck you will be compromised in size and storage. You're likely be close or at your truck's maximum capacity and limited in your choices. To me this goes back yo the best advice I've ever heard and that's "to buy the camper first, then buy a truck to tow it." I know that's easier said than done hut many ofbus have been caught in "chasing your tail" by reversing that proceedure.
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10-22-2021, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spock123
I was stopped at a Cracker Barrel in Nebraska one time and I saw a Ford F-150 pulling a Forest River Blue Ridge bunkhouse, the camper was at least 40ft long. I talked to the owner and he told me the truck pulled the fifth wheel great. A Ford is a pulling machine, most of the time when I’m passed pulling my Cedar Creek it’s a Ford. I normally run 70mph and a Ford pulling a fifth wheel will blow me off the road. If you are worried about stopping the camper just install disk brakes on the camper
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As a whole, this post was seriously irresponsible, far from truthful, and, I better let it go at that or face 30 days suspension.
(The story could have been worse. He could have been towing with a new Ford Maverick)
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10-22-2021, 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
As a whole, this post was seriously irresponsible, far from truthful, and, I better let it go at that or face 30 days suspension.
(The story could have been worse. He could have been towing with a new Ford Maverick)
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It was the truth and it didn’t bother me because I was going to eat in Cracker Barrel and he was driving on. He said most people look at his tires, there was about inches of rubber on the wheels. I saw a truck pulling a travel trailer that the bumper was less than a foot off the road. You can’t fix stupid.
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10-22-2021, 12:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
As a whole, this post was seriously irresponsible, far from truthful, and, I better let it go at that or face 30 days suspension.
(The story could have been worse. He could have been towing with a new Ford Maverick)
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In re-reading the post I think Spock was just relating everything the F150 driver told him. The way it’s written it does sound like the disk brake/tow beast parts were Spock’s .02, but don’t think so after a second read.
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10-22-2021, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by notanlines
(The story could have been worse. He could have been towing with a new Ford Maverick)
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Just wait! I'm sure that's going to happen sooner than later!
They'll be like the F150s & the Rangers with an absolutely ridiculous tow rating that every salesman will be quoting.
And as the guy in the Cracker Barrel parking lot said "Ford's are towing beast!"
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10-22-2021, 05:11 PM
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It was just a joke about a Ford being a pulling machine. My buddy has a Ford F-250 that he pulls a Wildcat fifth wheel with. He is always getting on me, he pulls his Wildcat at 70mph and he gets better fuel mileage than I do running 63mph, he has deleted his Ford. I have a GMC 2021 Denali Dually and my buddy rags me all the time about how much better his Ford is.
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10-23-2021, 05:19 AM
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Jimmy, the way it was written I thought the last half was your part of the conversation. My bad.
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2019 F450 6.7 Powerstroke
2018 Mobile Suites 40RSSA
2021 40' Jayco Eagle
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2021 Yamaha X2 Wolverine 1000
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10-28-2021, 01:33 PM
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Yes there are several out there. Take a look at the cougar line of 1/2 ton towables. We have a 2018 25 res and factory weight is 7400. What you'll need to look at is the pin weights and the weight of your hitch. Then look at your factory weight placard and decide what is best for you and what you are comfortable with.
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10-28-2021, 01:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by asherdav
Yes there are several out there. Take a look at the cougar line of 1/2 ton towables. We have a 2018 25 res and factory weight is 7400. What you'll need to look at is the pin weights and the weight of your hitch. Then look at your factory weight placard and decide what is best for you and what you are comfortable with.
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Unfortunately loaded up to it's 10K GVWR the 25RES will have a pin weight north of 2K. That pin weight, plus the weight of a couple of occupants, plus the weight of the hitch and any other cargo in the truck will easily exceed the payload of 99% of the 1/2 ton trucks out there.
As a Cougar '1/2 ton' owner (albeit a travel trailer), I've BTDT. My advertised brochure tongue weight is 810. In real life it's over 1200 lbs.
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10-28-2021, 04:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fourbtgait
Best style 5th wheel. Miss our Kit like that. Easy to pull.
I look at the ones now and no wonder you have to have a diesel with the noses.
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Another misconception about modern diesels, our 2016 Ram is just as quiet as a gas and doesn’t smell. Currently diesel is cheaper than gas and I get better mileage.
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