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09-26-2021, 07:22 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Central WI
Posts: 4
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New to the forum but not camping!
Hello from Central Wisconsin!
We are hopefully picking up our new Keystone on Tuesday and can't wait to get into a little better quality!
We have both been camping all our lives, since little on. We have been tenting for many years together and decided next year we were going to buy a camper.... 2 years later, we purchased our current camper .
Fast forward through 2 summers, we decided we need something a little different.... I am still in absolute love with our current camper, hubby not so much. We have a bunkhouse (which the kids love) with outdoor kitchen now, but master is smaller than the bunkhouse, there's no storage space and the main living area is cramped. Plus, the quality is just not there. Mom and dad said this time around, we are catering to us, not the kids
Looking forward to our new COUGAR!
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Dave & Lacey
RV: 2020 Crossroads Zinger ZR328SB TT
TV: 2020 Silverado 1500 RST, 6.2L, 4x4, Max Trailering Pkg and friction sway hitch.
COMING SOON: 2021 Keystone Cougar 32RLI TT
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09-26-2021, 07:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Markham, Ontario
Posts: 1,942
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Hello and to the forum.
Good luck with that TV / TT combo
Sorry, thought it was a 5th wheel. It's still a big hunk of trailer behind a 1/2 ton.
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Dan & Serena
2019 GMC SIERRA 2500 HD SLE
2015 Cougar X-Lite 29 RET
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09-26-2021, 09:24 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: W. Texas
Posts: 17,671
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Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new trailer!
Not meant to be a downer but with a family you need to review the weights of that trailer vs the capability of a 1/2 ton pickup. It comes in at 10,500 gvw. and is 36' long. The truck itself will probably be overloaded and unless you have changed the OE P rated tires to LT it's not going to be an optimum towing experience. Look at the yellow sticker inside the driver door and post the payload number to see where you are.
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Danny and Susan, wife of 56 years
2019 Ram 3500 Laramie CC SWB SB 6.4 4x4 4.10
2020 Montana High Country 331RL
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09-26-2021, 10:11 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Central WI
Posts: 4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sourdough
Welcome to the forum and congrats on the new trailer!
Not meant to be a downer but with a family you need to review the weights of that trailer vs the capability of a 1/2 ton pickup. It comes in at 10,500 gvw. and is 36' long. The truck itself will probably be overloaded and unless you have changed the OE P rated tires to LT it's not going to be an optimum towing experience. Look at the yellow sticker inside the driver door and post the payload number to see where you are.
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Yes, thank you for you concern. We did our research and we are well within the ratings of our truck. We do have E rated LT tires as well. This new TT is very similar in wt and a foot shorter than the one we have now.
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Dave & Lacey
RV: 2020 Crossroads Zinger ZR328SB TT
TV: 2020 Silverado 1500 RST, 6.2L, 4x4, Max Trailering Pkg and friction sway hitch.
COMING SOON: 2021 Keystone Cougar 32RLI TT
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09-27-2021, 03:47 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Saginaw Mn
Posts: 1,728
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Welcome from northern MN.
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2012 Keystone Retreat 39 FDEN
99 Dodge One Ton Diesel Dually
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09-27-2021, 07:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Picacho, Az
Posts: 6,809
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFamRC
Yes, thank you for you concern. We did our research and we are well within the ratings of our truck. We do have E rated LT tires as well. This new TT is very similar in wt and a foot shorter than the one we have now.
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Not trying to dampen your enthusiasm, but you might want to double check the payload number on your 1/2 tons drivers door jamb.
That's a 10500lb GVWR - 36' long rv with a tongue weight in excess of 1300lbs + 100+/- lbs for the hitch + the family & all all their stuff.
Just FYI, the max tow rating of your truck compared to the dry weight of that rv mean absolutely nothing in the rv world.
Sorry to repeat the last few posts, apparently we were all typing at the same time. Just concerned with your safety & that of everyone on the highway with you!
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Full-timed 10+ years
Sold '13 Redwood FB
Traded '13 GMC Denali DRW D/A
Replacement undetermined
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09-28-2021, 07:16 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Joppa, MD
Posts: 11,741
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFamRC
Yes, thank you for you concern. We did our research and we are well within the ratings of our truck. We do have E rated LT tires as well. This new TT is very similar in wt and a foot shorter than the one we have now.
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You are/were most likely overweight with the current or "old" trailer. Not trying to pile on here. Folks that have been around a long time have seen many, many folks use the wrong published numbers to calculate the weights. This is a very common mistake that even some "seasoned" RVers have made.
Most folks here have made those mistakes are just trying to help others not make the same mistakes. The easiest, most truthful info you can get is to drive over a scale. Take the trucks GVWR and subtract the scale weight. The remainder is the available payload.
The trailer tongue or pin weight (if unavailable to weigh) you should figure the GVW of the trailer multiply that by .13 for travel trailers (13% of GVWR) and by .23 for fifth wheels 23% of GVWR). Then add the weight of the hitch, typically about 120 lbs for a goor WDH or anywhere from 100-300 lbs. for a fiver. If those results are greater than the available payload of the truck you have a problem.
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Marshall
2012 Laredo 303 TG
2010 F250 LT Super Cab, long bed, 4X4, 6.4 Turbo Diesel
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09-26-2021, 09:42 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Central WI
Posts: 4
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Thanks!
We pulled our Zinger with our 2018 Silverado and it was pretty sketchy, hence the upgrade to the 2020 with the Max Trailering pkg. Just went 3 hours north 2 weeks ago and couldn't even tell the TT was behind us. Our new truck pulls trailers like a dream.
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Dave & Lacey
RV: 2020 Crossroads Zinger ZR328SB TT
TV: 2020 Silverado 1500 RST, 6.2L, 4x4, Max Trailering Pkg and friction sway hitch.
COMING SOON: 2021 Keystone Cougar 32RLI TT
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09-26-2021, 09:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Mico, TX
Posts: 7,447
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Not familiar with Chevy trucks... what is the RST package and what does the Max trailering package include? Sounds like a great trailer, btw.
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wiredgeorge Mico TX
2006 F350 CC 4WD 6.0L
2002 Keystone Cougar 278
2006 GL1800 Roadsmith Trike
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09-27-2021, 05:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Posts: 118
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Hello from Southern WI!!
I grew up in North Central WI (Merrill), so I’d imagine probably not too far from where you’re at.
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